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Brisingr!


Yes. With the exclamation mark.

Because ...

Yes.

It's EXCITING!


Paolini tries to describe the feeling of flight on dragon back with the phrase, "Eragon's limbs grew heavy as Saphira pulled out of the dive. Then she leveled out and the weight pressing down on him vanished. I think this would be an apt time for a metaphor. As long as it wasn't over done. How heavy is heavy after all? Did he feel like he was so heavy he'd fall off or crush Saphira.

Anyway, she's flying so that she can avoid the ballistae that the defending town has.

Yup. He's got ballistae firing into melee. Again.

Sure, it'll hurt like a bitch for those caught in it, but they're not really made for that sort of thing. They're made for taking down walls. But, they are weapons of war. So!

Eragon spots Arya and furry elf trying to fight off a group of soldiers. A hundred or so.

That's just counter productive. Or at least... I mean, you get a bunch of pikes, corner them and SKEWER. Dead elves. Easy.

But that would be intelligent and wouldn't allow for a rescue.

Saphira slaughters lots of people.

Saphira leaped down from the parapet and landed in the midst of the soldiers, crushing several men beneath her feet. The rest scattered, screaming with fear and surprise.Saphira roared, frustrated that her prey was escaping, and whipped her tail across the dirt, flattening a dozen more soldiers. A man tried to rush past her. Fast as striking snake, she caught him between her jaws and shook her head, snapping his spine. She disposed of another four in a similar manner.


YAY.

Arya and Fuzzy Elf are okay despite all that combat. They're just out of breath. They were trying to open the gate because they're impervious to magic and the battering ram hasn't worked. So they were going in themselves to open it.

When Arya paused to regain her breath, Blödhgarm picked up the thread of her narrative. “Arya convinced Nasuada to stage tonight’s attack so that we could sneak into Feinster without being noticed and open the gates from within. Unfortunately, we encountered a trio of spellcasters. They engaged us
with their minds and prevented us from using magic while they summoned soldiers to overwhelm us with sheer numbers.”


Engaged their minds. Really. This is just one of those silly things that just I don't know, gets my goat up every time I hear about them using that whole engage the minds thing I just want to engage my head against the desk. What's the point, really, of being a spell caster if you never cast any spells because you're too busy trying to prevent someone else from casting a spell.

It's sort of like the equivalent of two kids not poking each other in the back seat of the car making it hard for the driver to drive. They keep on not poking each other and going "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!" I think it's supposed to be like epic battle of wills and feints and bluffs and things like that but.. it's just like... you're always trying to prevent contingencies that you never actually do anything.

Let's see I've protected myself against sixteen different ways of being caught on fire... what happens if they know a seventeenth, I better figure out another seventy two, just in case.

Oh no! Someone is trying to figure out what protections I have!!! What should I do!? *runs around like a chicken with its head cut off*

It's not very exciting, is it?

Arya notices Eragon's new sword and fuzzy elf wants to know what it's called. In what becomes a 'running gag' of the chapter, every time Eragon tries to say its name something interupts him. In this case it's four guys with spears coming out of the alley at them. In a very weird movement, I'm not sure how he does it, perhaps some sort of weird contortion, Eragon cuts off the haft of the lowered spear and then the head of the bearer in one movement. Which means he some how got close enough and... I just... can't they're at two different angles. In a single, smooth motion, he drew Brisingr from its sheath and slashed through the haft of the lead man’s spear and, continuing with the blow, decapitated the soldier See, it's one motion, but it's not physically possible, I think.

Brisingr is bloodthirsty, "shimmering with savage delight".

Yes. And the sword has, maybe, bits of Eragon's psyche/being in it. Not at all ... a man who wants peace, is he? It shows up through out the rest of the chapter too.

Anyway, the four soldiers are slaughtered. Arya gets two of them. Fuzzy elf gets one. With a dagger. Why is he just carrying a dagger? Isn't that like bringing a knife to a gun fight? Wait. No, he kills the guy with his own dagger.

Oh.. and Eragon takes the remaining life force of a dying soldier and transfers it into Saphira. Little birds he cries over. Slaughtered animals make him feel sick. This is done without comment.

Value of human life? He has none.

The four of them, after this, go charging towards the gate killing people in their path. When they reach the gates fifty soldiers in gleaming armor come out of the towers and stand in front of the gate.

Wow. This city has enough guards - no soldiers - that they can spare fifty of them just to sit around and do nothing? And I say nothing because they're wearing gleaming armor. If they were doing something likely they wouldn't be in gleaming armor any more.

I believe he's using the word 'gleaming' to indicate that these men are threatening. Like a gleaming sword. But if armor is able to gleam then it hasn't been in use lately. Unless it's some sort of special armor that doesn't get stuck with dirt. Unlikely though.

Saphira wants to jump and crunch them all. Eragon tells her to wait. He wants to talk to them.

Now this scene has the feeling that it's from somewhere. I'm not sure where, but it just feels like it.

As he walks over to them one of them shoots an arrow at him. It stops three feet away from his chest and drops. He then introduces himself.

"My name is Eragon Shadeslayer! Perhaps you've heard of me, and perhaps not. In either case know this: I am a dragon rider, and I have sworn to help the Varden remove Galbatorix from his throne. Tell me, have any of you sworn fealty in the ancient language to Galbatorix or the Empire? ... Well, have you?"

The same man who had spoken before, said, "We would not swear fealty to the king even if he held a sword to our necks! Our loyalty belongs to Lady Lorana. She and her family have ruled us for four generations, and they've done a fine job of it too!" The other soldiers muttered in agreement.

"The join us!" cried Eragon. "Lay down your weapons, and I promise no harm shall come to you or your families. You cannot hope to hold Feinster against the combined might of the Varden, Sudra, the dwarves and the elves."


It's interesting here. He's only saying this to the fifty soldiers in front of the gate. What about all the other soldiers around? Why don't they get this offer? What if some of those are family of these men? How are you going to pick them out. Second of all, four generations doesn't seem like a long time. I mean you can have four living generations in a family after all. I think 'untold' generations might have been more impressive or 'since our city was founded'.

He says that Murtagh is no match for him and the Varden. This is the reply that the captain gives.

The captain of the soldiers said, "We may not have pledged ourselves to the king, but Lady Lorana has. What will you do to her, then? Kill her? Imprison her? No, we will not betray our trust and allow you to pass, nor the monsters clawing at our walls. You and the Varden hold nothing but the promise of death for those who have been forced to serve the Empire!"

"Why couldn't you have left well enough alone, eh, Dragon Rider? Why couldn't you have kept your head down so the rest of us could live in peace? But no, the lure of fame and glory and riches was too great. You had to bring wrack and ruin to our homes so that you could satisfy your ambitions. Well, I curse you, Dragon Rider! I curse you with all my heart! May you leave Alagesia and never return!



Okay. Talk about a tone change between paragraph one and paragraph two. This feels like the captain is giving the Crispin Day's speech from Henry V by Shakespeare and then moving to ... well... then a scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Like this:

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more,
Or close the wall up with our English dead!
In peace there 's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility;
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect.

You don't frighten us, English French pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person! I blow my nose at you, so-called Ah-thoor Keeng, you and all your silly English French K-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-niggits!

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food trough water! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries! Now leave before I am forced to taunt you a second time!



Wow.

I'm just staring at this and realized I just mixed Shakespeare and Monty Python. Is this a first? Has anyone ever done this before? Well, it's not exactly mixing but it's putting the two styles in juxtaposition to each other which exaggerates what I'm talking about to the ridiculous extreme. Normally, I imagine, it's not something you would notice. But it's a definite switch in tone. Which is jarring. It wouldn't be so bad if it were two different people speaking it, but when it's the same person, it's just doesn't flow well. The character gains a split personality.

The curse gives Eragon the willies because everyone keeps on telling him that he's going to leave Alagaesia and never return. (And they all rejoiced. Yay) And this pisses him off so he says that he doesn't wish to kill them but he will if he has to.

The Captain taunts him a second time.

The captain of the soldiers spat on the ground by Eragon's feet. "You don't even look human yourself! You're a traitor to your race, you are!" And with that, the man raised his shield and hefted his sword and walked slowly walked toward Eragon. "Shadeslayer," growled the soldier. "Ha! I'd as soon believe my brother's twelve-year-old son had killed a Shade as a youth like you."


I really like this guy. We know he has a nephew (why he had to say brother's twelve-year-old son, I don't know) that he's clearly fond of. And that means family. He has at least a brother and a sister in law. Also, notice, the guy is walking towards Eragon, but not attacking. He's being defensive because, well, Eragon's a scary fuck. Shame it doesn't do him any good.

Eragon waited until the captain was only a few feet away. Then he took a single step forward and stabbed Brisingr through the center of the man's embossed shield, through his arm underneath, and then through the man's chest and out his back. The man convulsed once and was still. As Eragon pulled his blade free of the corpse, there was a discordant clamor from with in the guard towers as gears and chains began to turn and the massive beams that held closed the city gates began to withdraw.

"Lay down yor weapons or die!" Eragon shouted.


Damn. He died. He wasn't even threatening Eragon. Well, he could have been considered threatening, but it looked like he was being cautious and not wanting to strike first. I think if he wanted to strike first he would have charged screaming wildly. In this case I believe he was trying to test Eragon's resolve in not wanting to kill them.

Clearly this did not work. Poor guy. He was only trying to protect his home and the people he loved and be loyal to his lady.

Twenty soldiers then rush Eragon (I like how he's able to count them all) the others ran away or dropped their weapons and "knelt by the side of the street with their hands on their knees".

... This is a sign of surrender I've never heard of. Isn't it usually with their hands behind their heads? Now it looks like they're kneeling in worship to Eragon.

Eragon kills the soldiers in such away that he causes a 'fine mist of blood' around him. I would think he'd be getting splurts of blood with all the hacking and slashing he's doing. Fine mists I would place with blowing people up. Blood doesn't mist very well when you're cutting them apart. See the Black Knight from the Holy Grail. His final blow caused the man to topple into two pieces. Exciting!

The gates open and the Varden spills in, because they obviously knew when the gates were going to open. Everyone is happy to see Eragon. Nicely he points out the soldiers who surrendered are his prisoners.

He sees Roran and other Carvahall folks and has a brief chat. Roran wants to know where he got the sword from. The Elves. What’s it called? Eragon gets interrupted in saying its name as the other elves show up. Guy from the Emo Chicken match shows up and tells Eragon that he should try and get to the keep. Before Roran takes off again, Eragon tells him that Brom is his father not Morzan.

Arya and Roran are surprised to learn this. After all it’s kind of a stupid plot device. But Eragon says that he’s thrilled to be rid of Morzan’s name

Arya tries to go again when Eragon tells her that “The Cripple Who Is Whole” has gone off to fight. The Elves are all WTF? And wow this is amazing news.

Eragon goes off on Saphira to get to the keep, stalling whenever they saw a huge clump of men so they could try and convince them to surrender. Sometimes it didn’t work, sometimes it did. But “he felt better for having tried, for many of the men who thronged the streets were ordinary citizens of Feinster, and not trained soldiers.” I guess once you become a trained soldier you automatically become evil. See that poor kid who got his neck snapped.

Obviously they are having trouble fighting in close quarters like the city because he’s on a dragon who is big and not going to fit in the streets. She does a lot of damage because of this, like wrecking the front of houses.

The constant street gorilla fighting finally pisses –enrages - Eragon off that he decides he’s going to kill every last one of them. He follows them into a millinery shop and they attack him… destroying his shield.

Wait.

What?

What shield?

*flips back through the chapter.*

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Oh My! Apparently Paolini forgot that Eragon never picked up a shield. So one just materialized on him just to get destroyed by a hammer before Eragon kills a bunch of people. The remaining soldiers rush up the stairs and Eragon follows them into the shop owner’s quarters. They apparently have a maze of small rooms.

Maybe it’s like the TARDIS?

He kills four people in the sitting room… because they would have enough room to have a sitting room and realizes that it would probably be rude to leave the bodies there.







. . .

So… he tosses them out the window.


All right then.

Sure.

I’ll… go with that. Why not? It makes about as much sense as anything else in this book.

Someone unexpected stabs Eragon and just before he cuts the guy’s head off he realizes it’s just this kid, about thirteen years old. About two years younger than Eragon. But hes’ describe as a “thin boy of no more than thirteen”. Obviously if you’re thin you’re a callow youth and don’t get to have your head chopped off. Past the boy are his parents clutching each other in terror in their nightclothes.

Eragon feels ashamed he tells them to stay inside, apologizes and leaves.

He sees a bunch of King Orrin’s men taking time off from fighting for some looting things from silverware to sofas. Note that they are King Orrin’s men and not the Varden because the Varden are too Kind and Noble to do this. Eragon yells at them.

Eragon dashed a pile of rugs from the arms of one man. “Put these things back!” he shouted at the entire group. “We’re here to help these people, not steal from them! They are our brothers and sisters, our mothers and fathers. I’ll let you off this once, but spread the word that if you or anyone else goes looting, I’ll have you strung up and whipped as the thieves you are!” Saphira growled, emphasizing his point. Under their watchful gaze, the chastened warriors returned the spoils to the marble-clad mansion.


Generally speaking, aren’t you supposed to wait until after you’re done fighting to loot? And I guess stealing is bad, but it’s okay to kill them mercilessly. Especially since they’re family. Who hasn’t wanted to kill family once in a while? I know I have.

I’m starting to wonder why they didn’t negotiate with the Lady of the city first. This becomes important later. I skimmed ahead. Of course if they did, then there wouldn’t be this awesome battle where Eragon gets to slaughter everything in his sight. Except small children.

They’re then sent off to go and kill more people, Saphira killing some people gruesomely. Eragon mentions that he’s very glad she’s on their side.


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in RP journal as laaaaaaaaaaaazy

Date: 2010-11-01 12:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hallelujahpilot
In a single, smooth motion, he drew Brisingr from its sheath and slashed through the haft of the lead man’s spear and, continuing with the blow, decapitated the soldier See, it's one motion, but it's not physically possible, I think.

Actually, it's doable, I think. I thiiiiiiiiiink. Not standing up to mime it, as dizzy, but I think it's doable.

Re: in RP journal as laaaaaaaaaaaazy

Date: 2010-11-01 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I tried it and it's a very awkward way to do it. Lots of weird twisting and stuff.

Re: in RP journal as laaaaaaaaaaaazy

Date: 2010-11-01 12:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hallelujahpilot
....Really? For me, there is a bit of awkwardness in drawing the sword, but the rest of it works in a smooth arc.

Re: in RP journal as laaaaaaaaaaaazy

Date: 2010-11-01 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Maybe we're both trying to cut the haft differently.

Re: in RP journal as laaaaaaaaaaaazy

Date: 2010-11-01 06:43 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Wait, he cuts through the wooden spear and the guy's neck in one motion? What does he have a lightsaber?

Re: in RP journal as laaaaaaaaaaaazy

Date: 2010-11-01 11:08 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It depends on how he's holding the spear. Something like this should work:

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2646/spearm.png

Date: 2010-11-01 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenswept.livejournal.com
The point of telling Ayra and Ronan that Morzan isn't his father at this particular time and battle is... what again? Oh yeah, it's him shouting at the reader that "Ha ha, I fooled you didn't I?" expect he didn't. For all his plagerism, Paolini didn't do a good job of stealing battle scenes, because unless there's a lull people don't generally take the time to exposit plot points oh wait I'm thinking again.

I believe it's "guerilla" warfare, not "gorilla". Though Gorilla Warfare would make this a much more interesting book.

I like how after all of the taunts and shouting between him and the captain, Eragon doesn't disagree with him at any point. Ahh, Paolini's unselfawarenss is aways a constant.

Date: 2010-11-01 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Oh. Well, I'll have to fix that.


I like how after all of the taunts and shouting between him and the captain, Eragon doesn't disagree with him at any point.

I didn't notice that! But you're right! At least King Arthur tried to refute those Silly French.

Date: 2010-11-01 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
Unless you are writing a shades of gray kind of novel, people should be able to tell who the heroes are. Er, lets make that people should agree with the author about who the heroes are. Because it seems obvious who the heroes are, they just aren't Eragon, the Varden, the elves, or anyone else we're supposed to consider the heroes. (The dwarves might get a pass, actually. I don't remember them doing anything that would be evil in any other book.)

Eragon is just straight up evil. His heroic scenes are all bad guy scenes - with him as the bad guy. How the hell does Paolini not notice this?

Date: 2010-11-01 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
How the hell does Paolini not notice this?

He's looking at it through Eragon's eyes, my guess.

The dwarves attacked Eragon?

Date: 2010-11-01 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenka0602.livejournal.com
You know it would be funny if the family he spares - the ones in their pajamas - turned out to be the masterminds of the whole affair and because of his "aw, they are still in their PJs, I cant kill them like that. Sorry." they manage to flee and cause some more serious trouble.

Date: 2010-11-01 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
If the boy's parents had been killed, Eragon would then be the new Bad Guy in an epic bildungsroman where the boy grows up on his Uncle's farm, vowing to avenge his family by destroying all of the elves and dragons in the world. The Wheel of Fortune ever turns.

Date: 2010-11-01 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenka0602.livejournal.com
Now that would be meta - epicness of unprecedented scale.

Date: 2010-11-01 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenswept.livejournal.com
Yeah, but then that means that we'd get more books from Paolini.

Date: 2010-11-02 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
What could happen instead is someone else writes the books using the same concept.

Date: 2010-11-01 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
He also doesn't see the big picture(and neither, clearly, does Paolini). They're invading this city. They are, in a very real way, the bad guys here. I suppose his sparing that family is something most fictional villains wouldn't do, but the fact that no lightbulb of "oh shit, we might be in the wrong" goes off doesn't speak highly of him. And killing the captain would probably have put him over the moral event horizon if the Slone issue and the young man he killed while the guy was begging for his life hadn't already.

Date: 2010-11-01 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenka0602.livejournal.com
Not to mention that since they are invading the city, any of the pajama - d people could just grab the nearest knife and stab him in the back, without so much as putting on their slippers.

What a glorious end of the "Shadeslayer" would that be:P

Date: 2010-11-01 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxypope.livejournal.com
I don't remember which show, movie or book I'm thinking of--maybe Dexter?--but I remember there being a theme of bad guys letting their victims get away once in a while. The conclusion was that bad guys did it A) to retain control and B) to reassure themselves that they're not All Bad.

This is definitely the case with Eragon here; he doesn't want to be a mindless killing machine, since he's the hero. Sparing those parents was the moral reassurance he needed in order to go on massacring more people.

Date: 2010-11-01 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hekateras.livejournal.com
Not sure exactly what you're thinking of, but that reminds me of a Doctor Who quote that is also used in the heading for the Pet the Dog Tv Tropes page:

"You let one of them go, but that's nothing new. Every now and then, a little victim's spared... because she smiled, cos he's got freckles, cos they begged. And that's how you live with yourself, that's how you slaughter millions, because once in a while, on a whim, if the wind's in the right direction, you happen to be kind."

Date: 2010-11-01 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxypope.livejournal.com
It might've been Doctor Who, actually. But then again I think it's a trope that comes up in a lot of things I follow, so that's probably where the confusion came from. It definitely still applies to Eragon; you let one family go because you feel bad and continue on with the mindless slaughter conscience-free.

Date: 2010-11-02 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
You know what? That's exactly what happened there.

Date: 2010-11-11 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah! I saw that episode, though I forget which one it was. A newer one, I do believe. It sent a chill down my spine when I heard him say that. And it's very true for Eragon, alas. :(

Date: 2010-11-01 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
My personal theory is that the family is the one the Captain of the Guard talked about.
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Date: 2010-11-01 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Action scenes are hard. Especially if you're trying to keep track of more than two people in the fight. Of course I wouldn't call these fights so much as slaughter. /Rimshot

I put your first two books (American Editions) on my book recommendation page.

I think I'd like Sloan to have a happy ending. Without ever coming around to like the hero. But that is my own personal preference.


And of course I'd love to see Griffin's War. I've practically got the American Editions marked on my calender for when they come out.
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Date: 2010-11-02 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
But we'll see what happens. If he does wind up liking the protagonist, it'll be because they got to know each other better and the protagonist was nice to him.


Oh yes, of course. That's perfectly find. However it'd be nice if he didn't magically suddenly like the protagonist.


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Date: 2010-11-11 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
I like this idea! I also second possible romance. Really, anything nice would be lovely. XD

Now watch as the general reading public hate it or something else silly like that. :P :)
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Date: 2010-11-03 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
Ooh, make Slone get together with a close compatriot of the main character. Have them (Slone and Main Character) bicker all the time. And so forth. Make him a main character, maybe? >:3

I have no idea about your books since they've not been released in England. Silly Aussies.

Date: 2010-11-01 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foxypope.livejournal.com
Eragon comes off as such a small person when he kills that captain. That speaks of his insecurity; it's like he's the neighborhood bully. When someone makes fun of him in any way, he can't respond with his own cleverness--he has to use brute force to get the message across. Eragon is nothing but a meathead.

There's also the obvious "Join me or die" thing--he couldn't compromise with these people. He couldn't promise to not kill their Lady and in fact find some way to get her out of her oath. After all, it's just so much less work just to kill them right here and now--what use is gathering support when you can just force people to join you or kill them?

Date: 2010-11-01 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
It hurts that "join me or die" is one of the big quotes (mis-quotes) that I connect to Darth Vader. Eragon is supposed to be Luke, Anikin.

Date: 2010-11-02 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
What he should have done is fly straight towards the keep and gone to find the Lady. Negotiated or try to free her.
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Date: 2010-11-03 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Guards in fantasy novels get such a raw deal, don't they?

I believe that was the reasoning behind pTerry's creation of the Watch series.

Date: 2010-11-01 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] princesselwen.livejournal.com
I dislike him even more now. Darn you, Eragon! Why do you have to be so bloodthirsty? Is he Darth Eragon now?
So...its okay to kill people but its bad to take their stuff. And do you realize that one of the first things the Varden did was set fire to all the wooden houses of the poor that were outside the wall?

Date: 2010-11-03 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I didn't know that's what the Varden did. I should say I should pay attention better to what I'm reading but... it's hard enough as it is.

Date: 2010-11-01 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
So...Arya and Furry can turn invisible, and they are capable of climbing the walls. So...why have the Varden been battering at the gate instead of sending the elves over the walls?

Date: 2010-11-01 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hekateras.livejournal.com
You appear to have been taking logic in your raisin bran in the mornings. You might want to do something about that. ;)

Date: 2010-11-02 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
As far as I know they didn't turn invisible, however they should have.

But that would have been intelligent.

Date: 2010-11-02 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chocolatemithra.livejournal.com
So this guy who looks like an elf (who are evidently all total badasses in combat) just landed a dragon in front of them and stopped an arrow in mid-air. So... the captain walks toward him threateningly?

Something tells me Paolini didn't really think this scene through from the captain's pov.

Date: 2010-11-02 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
He wasn't walking forward threateningly in my opinion. Defensively.

And since when does Paolini think things through from anyone but the PC's POV?

Date: 2010-11-02 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
I hate the fact that the only character that behaves realistically in these books is SLOAN.

Date: 2010-11-02 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But we should all HATE Sloan becasue he is EVVVVIIIIIIIILLLL, remember?

Date: 2010-11-03 07:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Eragon takes the remaining life force of a dying soldier and transfers it into Saphira.

I'm wondering why he doesn't do this more often. It seems really useful. Also, what's stopping him from just doing it en masse?

Though I suppose the answer to all of these things is "because Paolini didn't really think this through".

On Mages

Date: 2010-11-03 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
Damn it, I might actually have to change mages in my setting, now. :| Simply to stop the cries of "YOU STOLE THAT FROM ERAGON" if I ever get any of them published.

Basically, the idea in my setting is that mages move into the stronger mage's mind to duke it out. This is due to ancient magic designed to prevent a pair of mages from devastating the world from a single fight.

I've not got a clue why Paolini has it in the books, or why we never seen it happen to Eragon. I also don't get why there's a weird mix of magic and psionics in the books.

Re: On Mages

Date: 2010-11-06 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacedraccus.livejournal.com
Yeah, I do wonder why a 'true name' magic system has that kind of mental battling. It doesn't seem to be anything they work to develop, they just do it.

Your setting could still work... maybe make it a mindscape kinda deal, a separate plane of sorts where thought and imagination and willpower control the reality around them.

Re: On Mages

Date: 2010-11-11 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
I think as long as you make it interesting, it won't matter. Besides, it's not as if Paolini even describes the mental magic/psionics so it's a lot harder to say it came from him when it's just a general idea he wrote. I actually don't even know if he means it the way it sounds. I think he's just saying they push their will against one another to negate invisible possibilities. Again, without details it makes it harder to claim it was even inspired by him.

Plus, I'm pretty positive it isn't a new idea. Anything truly new is hard to come by. As long as you go in-depth to explain what is happening and how, apply your own style and form to it, and make it a major part of the story, it'll be great. XD

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