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Gay marriage being made legal yesterday reminded me of a family member.

His name was "Cousin Charlie" and he was in my grandfather's generation. My mom knew him when she was little and loved him dearly. Whenever he would come over, my grandfather would run around going "Where's my bathrobe! Where's my bathrobe! Charlie's coming over!" and my bubbie would roll her eyes at this.

Charlie, my mom says, committed suicide.

With this law having passed, I started to wonder what it would have been like for him, if he lived now. Or didn't kill himself.

I honestly don't know.

But I've been thinking about it.

Date: 2008-06-19 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Slowly. I know you folks are much more forward than us in this matter.

Date: 2008-06-20 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacedraccus.livejournal.com
'You folks' and 'us' being who? *curious* Are the Jews really that conservative?

Date: 2008-06-20 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
I suspect it's referring to Norwegians versus Americans. Norway was second in the world to get gay marriage, and the sixth to pass a fully gender-neutral marriage law. A majority of the population is in favour of this.

Date: 2008-06-20 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
"you folks" being Norwegians and "us" being Americans.

I read a letter to the editor in the paper today where this person was Very Upset that they put a picture of a just married couple kissing on the front page, because it wasn't respecting the wishes of the 60% of Californians who voted against it. (It was overturned as unconstitutional).

They said it was all good and fine that gays could do what they wanted in the privacy of their own homes, but really, the newspaper shouldn't be showing it to those who don't want it.

Date: 2008-06-24 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-goddess.livejournal.com
This is what angers me most about this whole issue: that heterosexuals think they're even entitled to an opinion on what we do (or don't) with the people we love (or hook up with, or fuck, or whatever). The idea that people feel the need to approve or disapprove of what I do with my private life is baffling to me. I don't go around critiquing other people's relationships and sex lives, so I don't see why mine should be brought before the court of public opinion just because it's kinda different.

Date: 2008-06-20 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misscam.livejournal.com
We've had time to get used to it. We got gay marriage over a decade ago, and it's just become a fact of our society, you know? Things are much the same. It's not this scary unknown change and our country has not fallen into some sort of abyss. Granted, we're far less socially conservative than the US to begin with, but the acceptance has grown steadily as people just got used to it.

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