In Which Kippur is severly pissed off.
Feb. 14th, 2011 10:34 pmPart Three
So, after the blind kid some how fixes breakfast with food they somehow have despite not having any sort of means for money or getting anywhere to get the said food, Angel declares that she wants to pick strawberries. After she says that the Gasman farts. This is funny because everyone gets upset about it. And makes exaggerated oh god he farted we’re dying in need of air jokes.
Yeah.
After this they go out to pick wild strawberries, Angel holding Max’s hand and saying that if Max makes cake, she can make strawberry shortcakes. So, they even have stuff to make cake. Iggy - the blind kid - says that he should make the cake because “ That’ll be the day when makes makes a cake.”
Where upon Makes says the weirdest thing, “Oh thank you!” I exclaimed. “Okay, I’m not a fabulous cook. But I can still kick your butt, and don’t you forget it!”
I say this is weird because earlier Max was alright with Iggy being the one who can cook, even saying that it didn’t bother her that he was better at it. And that was just a few pages. So why the sudden exclamation of hatred?
To show that the Gasman has the ability to throw and mimic voices. It is a weird ability and they have them. Weird abilities. Mostly.
Then Angel screams as men drop from the sky. Eraserheads! OHNOES!
*Runs around flailing*
So.
Um.
Right. The kids get beaten up by some of the Eraserheads.
Blah blah blah.
Max gets beaten up some more. Angel gets stuffed in a sack. And Max meets Jed’s son, Ari, who apparently got turned into an Eraserhead. He was seven years old. I’m not sure if it was seven when she last saw him or seven now, because he’s obviously big enough to stomp her around. The wording is just unclear. Now, we never got a mention of Jeb’s son before this. I would think it would be something to be mentioned when Max and the others were living with him on the run.
Was Ari with them during this time? Did Jeb leave Ari with his mother? Did Jeb leave because he heard what was going on with his son? Clearly the must have known Ari, but when did they know him? During their time in the School?
“He was seven years old” is too murky of a sentence. He was seven years old when she last saw him? He was seven years old at this point in time? Why would she even think that at this point? Obviously to drop more information about how Evil the School is but, I would think a more appropriate train of thought would be “Ari was Jeb’s son. They’d made him into an Eraser. What about Jeb?” or something along those lines. Not about his age.
And then Ari knocks Max out with a kick to her head. (yay)
So. Max has been knocked out by the people who have been chasing them and trying to capture them for over two years. Clearly this must mean she’s back in their custody and getting shipped to the school with the others, all tied up and no where to go.
Right?
Right?
Yeah. No.
They just left everyone but Angel there.
Yeah.
That’s right.
They took only Angel and left the rest of the experiments lying there in the dirt. It’s like hunting escaped prisoners and then only bringing one back.
Why in the Hell would you do that?! What sort of just... and... it’s... I mean... NAGH.
IF YOU’RE GOING TO BE A GODDAMN EVIL MAD SCIENTIST ORGANIZATION THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS CAPTURE ALL YOUR MISSING EXPERIMENTS WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHANCE!!! I MEAN REALLY THIS IS EVIL OVERLORD/MAD SCIENTIST/PLOT CONTRIVANCE BASICS! IF YOU WANT TO SET UP A GOD DAMN RESCUE PLOT THEN YOU DON’T JUST KIDNAP ONE OF THEM AND LEAVE THE REST TO ROT. YOU HAVE THE ONE WHO NEEDS RESCUING KIDNAPPED WHEN THE OTHERS AREN’T AROUND. YOU DON’T JUST LEAVE THEM THERE.
THE ENTIRE SET UP WE’VE BEEN GIVEN UP UNTIL THIS POINT IS THAT THEY ARE ON THE RUN FROM THE MAD EVIL SCIENTISTS WHO WANT TO TAKE THEM BACK TO THE EVIL SCHOOL AND WHAT DO THEY DO WHEN THEY FINALLY HAVE THEM!?
LEAVE THEM
CLEARLY THEY AREN’T AT ALL AS THREATENING OR SCARY AS WE THOUGHT THEY WERE.
NAAAARRRRRRGH.
*fumes*
However what this does gives us is the why didn’t they take me scene, from Max, to show how unselfish she is that she would rather be in Angel’s place than stay free. She’s a noble one, she is. Which is obviously the only reason why we had this scene.
To make things more fun and confusing, it turns out that while the Eraserheads were dropped from the sky but, they leave in a car. This also begs the question, why didn’t any of the flock hear the helicopter, plane, what have you over head before Angel screamed. They must have dropped from a helicopter because they didn’t have parachutes. If they did drop from a helicopter it would have to have been close enough for them to come down on ropes, it was mentioned that they came out of the sky like spiders, which seems to indicated rope. But if it is a helicopter then why didn’t they notice the damn thing before Angel screamed? I would think the noise of one that close would be rather obvious.
What should have happened is something like this.
I looked down at Angel as suddenly a helicopter flew down low. It’s blades kicked up a huge gusts of wind, dirt and strawberries flying into my face. She looked up and started to scream. Following her gaze I saw Eraserheads coming down from the sky!
Blah blah blah
One car. Sure it’s an Humvee, but it’s one car.
Where did the others go?
Oh and Iggy, the blind kid, is the one who hears the car. He has no problem following the others running after where they hear the car.
Honestly, what’s the point of being blind if you have no problems with the blindness? I mean we just heard in the beginning that they had to keep all the furniture in the same place so he could know where he is. Now he’s been beaten up, probably disorientated, has no idea where exactly he is, charging into the woods at a run where God knows where anything is and would be tricky for a sighted person to navigate easily and... he has no problems.
This is sounding like an informed attribute. Like Bella’s clumsiness. Except dumber.
If you’re going to be blind. Then you need to be blind. Unless Iggy has some sort of sonar ability, which it is not mentioned, then he should be saying things like “you go get her, I’ll wait here” and not blindly - pun not intended - charging into the woods. Blindness is not something you can say doesn’t effect a character’s every motion and action, because it does. It’s a serious disability. Not one that you can turn on or off as the plot demands. It’s not a character quirk it’s a defining part of a person’s character coloring how they interact with everyone and everything in their lives. It has to effect you. You can’t go charging off into the GODFUCKINGDAMN WOODS WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE AND EXPECT TO COME OUT ALL RIGHT ANY MORE THAN A NORMAL PERSON WOULD GO WALKING IN A CAVE WITHOUT ANY LIGHTS.
Speaking as a person with a disability, while not being physically blind, I do have many problems because of my autism and quite frankly it’s not something I can turn off when I want to go into a crowded room because I want to. No. It is going to be hanging over my head like a ten ton anvil waiting to drop and giving me an anxiety attack. I am going to be hyper aware of everything going around me. It will be a minefield. It is not something I can turn off because I really want to go and see whatever is in this room. Even if a room in my own house has become crowded I will still have anxiety problems? Why? Because one of my autistic things is that I have issues with crowded spaces. It does not turn off.
Disabilities do not turn off.
I’m sorry. But any sort of whatever I could have for this book, has just been trashed. This has become a Bad Book in my opinion. No redeeming value whatsoever. None. It is a non-book. It is worse than fan fiction. It is a waste of trees and space. It should not have been written like this. Iggy should not be blind. This is stupid. A disgrace and an insult to people who do have disabilities.
Never mind the fact that when Max and the others take off into the air to follow the Humvee (how will Iggy know where to go?) her wings appear without seeming to break her shirt. She says she unfurls them. Where the hell were they in the first place?!
nnnngggg...


So, after the blind kid some how fixes breakfast with food they somehow have despite not having any sort of means for money or getting anywhere to get the said food, Angel declares that she wants to pick strawberries. After she says that the Gasman farts. This is funny because everyone gets upset about it. And makes exaggerated oh god he farted we’re dying in need of air jokes.
Yeah.
After this they go out to pick wild strawberries, Angel holding Max’s hand and saying that if Max makes cake, she can make strawberry shortcakes. So, they even have stuff to make cake. Iggy - the blind kid - says that he should make the cake because “ That’ll be the day when makes makes a cake.”
Where upon Makes says the weirdest thing, “Oh thank you!” I exclaimed. “Okay, I’m not a fabulous cook. But I can still kick your butt, and don’t you forget it!”
I say this is weird because earlier Max was alright with Iggy being the one who can cook, even saying that it didn’t bother her that he was better at it. And that was just a few pages. So why the sudden exclamation of hatred?
To show that the Gasman has the ability to throw and mimic voices. It is a weird ability and they have them. Weird abilities. Mostly.
Then Angel screams as men drop from the sky. Eraserheads! OHNOES!
*Runs around flailing*
So.
Um.
Right. The kids get beaten up by some of the Eraserheads.
There was no time to think. Jeb had trained us not to think - just to act. I launched myself at an Eraser, spinning and planting a hard, roundhouse kick in his barrel chest. His breath went oof , and the order was just awful, like raw sewage left out in the hot sun.
After that, it was like a movie, a bunch of superimposed images that hardly seemed real. I landed another blow, then an Eraser punched me so hard that my head snapped around and I felt a burst of blood in my mouth. Out of the corner of my eye, I saw Fang holding his own against an Eraser - until two more ganged up on him, and he went down under flailing clawed hands.
Iggy was still upright, but one eye was already swelling shut.
Beyond shock, I scrambled to my feet, then saw the Gasman out cold, lying face down on the ground.
Blah blah blah.
Max gets beaten up some more. Angel gets stuffed in a sack. And Max meets Jed’s son, Ari, who apparently got turned into an Eraserhead. He was seven years old. I’m not sure if it was seven when she last saw him or seven now, because he’s obviously big enough to stomp her around. The wording is just unclear. Now, we never got a mention of Jeb’s son before this. I would think it would be something to be mentioned when Max and the others were living with him on the run.
Was Ari with them during this time? Did Jeb leave Ari with his mother? Did Jeb leave because he heard what was going on with his son? Clearly the must have known Ari, but when did they know him? During their time in the School?
“He was seven years old” is too murky of a sentence. He was seven years old when she last saw him? He was seven years old at this point in time? Why would she even think that at this point? Obviously to drop more information about how Evil the School is but, I would think a more appropriate train of thought would be “Ari was Jeb’s son. They’d made him into an Eraser. What about Jeb?” or something along those lines. Not about his age.
And then Ari knocks Max out with a kick to her head. (yay)
So. Max has been knocked out by the people who have been chasing them and trying to capture them for over two years. Clearly this must mean she’s back in their custody and getting shipped to the school with the others, all tied up and no where to go.
Right?
Right?
Yeah. No.
They just left everyone but Angel there.
Yeah.
That’s right.
They took only Angel and left the rest of the experiments lying there in the dirt. It’s like hunting escaped prisoners and then only bringing one back.
Why in the Hell would you do that?! What sort of just... and... it’s... I mean... NAGH.
IF YOU’RE GOING TO BE A GODDAMN EVIL MAD SCIENTIST ORGANIZATION THE LEAST YOU CAN DO IS CAPTURE ALL YOUR MISSING EXPERIMENTS WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHANCE!!! I MEAN REALLY THIS IS EVIL OVERLORD/MAD SCIENTIST/PLOT CONTRIVANCE BASICS! IF YOU WANT TO SET UP A GOD DAMN RESCUE PLOT THEN YOU DON’T JUST KIDNAP ONE OF THEM AND LEAVE THE REST TO ROT. YOU HAVE THE ONE WHO NEEDS RESCUING KIDNAPPED WHEN THE OTHERS AREN’T AROUND. YOU DON’T JUST LEAVE THEM THERE.
THE ENTIRE SET UP WE’VE BEEN GIVEN UP UNTIL THIS POINT IS THAT THEY ARE ON THE RUN FROM THE MAD EVIL SCIENTISTS WHO WANT TO TAKE THEM BACK TO THE EVIL SCHOOL AND WHAT DO THEY DO WHEN THEY FINALLY HAVE THEM!?
LEAVE THEM
CLEARLY THEY AREN’T AT ALL AS THREATENING OR SCARY AS WE THOUGHT THEY WERE.
NAAAARRRRRRGH.
*fumes*
However what this does gives us is the why didn’t they take me scene, from Max, to show how unselfish she is that she would rather be in Angel’s place than stay free. She’s a noble one, she is. Which is obviously the only reason why we had this scene.
To make things more fun and confusing, it turns out that while the Eraserheads were dropped from the sky but, they leave in a car. This also begs the question, why didn’t any of the flock hear the helicopter, plane, what have you over head before Angel screamed. They must have dropped from a helicopter because they didn’t have parachutes. If they did drop from a helicopter it would have to have been close enough for them to come down on ropes, it was mentioned that they came out of the sky like spiders, which seems to indicated rope. But if it is a helicopter then why didn’t they notice the damn thing before Angel screamed? I would think the noise of one that close would be rather obvious.
What should have happened is something like this.
I looked down at Angel as suddenly a helicopter flew down low. It’s blades kicked up a huge gusts of wind, dirt and strawberries flying into my face. She looked up and started to scream. Following her gaze I saw Eraserheads coming down from the sky!
Blah blah blah
One car. Sure it’s an Humvee, but it’s one car.
Where did the others go?
Oh and Iggy, the blind kid, is the one who hears the car. He has no problem following the others running after where they hear the car.
Honestly, what’s the point of being blind if you have no problems with the blindness? I mean we just heard in the beginning that they had to keep all the furniture in the same place so he could know where he is. Now he’s been beaten up, probably disorientated, has no idea where exactly he is, charging into the woods at a run where God knows where anything is and would be tricky for a sighted person to navigate easily and... he has no problems.
This is sounding like an informed attribute. Like Bella’s clumsiness. Except dumber.
If you’re going to be blind. Then you need to be blind. Unless Iggy has some sort of sonar ability, which it is not mentioned, then he should be saying things like “you go get her, I’ll wait here” and not blindly - pun not intended - charging into the woods. Blindness is not something you can say doesn’t effect a character’s every motion and action, because it does. It’s a serious disability. Not one that you can turn on or off as the plot demands. It’s not a character quirk it’s a defining part of a person’s character coloring how they interact with everyone and everything in their lives. It has to effect you. You can’t go charging off into the GODFUCKINGDAMN WOODS WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE AND EXPECT TO COME OUT ALL RIGHT ANY MORE THAN A NORMAL PERSON WOULD GO WALKING IN A CAVE WITHOUT ANY LIGHTS.
Speaking as a person with a disability, while not being physically blind, I do have many problems because of my autism and quite frankly it’s not something I can turn off when I want to go into a crowded room because I want to. No. It is going to be hanging over my head like a ten ton anvil waiting to drop and giving me an anxiety attack. I am going to be hyper aware of everything going around me. It will be a minefield. It is not something I can turn off because I really want to go and see whatever is in this room. Even if a room in my own house has become crowded I will still have anxiety problems? Why? Because one of my autistic things is that I have issues with crowded spaces. It does not turn off.
Disabilities do not turn off.
I’m sorry. But any sort of whatever I could have for this book, has just been trashed. This has become a Bad Book in my opinion. No redeeming value whatsoever. None. It is a non-book. It is worse than fan fiction. It is a waste of trees and space. It should not have been written like this. Iggy should not be blind. This is stupid. A disgrace and an insult to people who do have disabilities.
Never mind the fact that when Max and the others take off into the air to follow the Humvee (how will Iggy know where to go?) her wings appear without seeming to break her shirt. She says she unfurls them. Where the hell were they in the first place?!
nnnngggg...


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Date: 2011-02-15 06:57 am (UTC)In fact, the fail was so bad it broke your html.
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Date: 2011-02-15 11:14 am (UTC)Wait, did the blind kid just make a Buddy Holly reference? Dear lord, I hope not.
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Date: 2011-02-17 04:49 pm (UTC)I think he may have.
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Date: 2011-02-15 01:17 pm (UTC)You are going to love Angel.
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Date: 2011-02-15 01:20 pm (UTC)I am STUNNED that there's apparently a book five.
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Date: 2011-02-15 01:22 pm (UTC)Kippur, I love you. Please don't go any further than book one.
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Date: 2011-02-16 04:46 pm (UTC)They don't seem to express emotions at all.
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Date: 2011-02-15 11:50 pm (UTC)FAJSDSGFDK
GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN, KIPPUR!
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Date: 2011-02-17 05:58 pm (UTC)To try and spork it...you have respect. I personally think it's impossible, but I wish you best of luck.
Wait, I've got it!
Date: 2011-02-16 09:58 am (UTC)It's super effective!
KIPPUR'S attack sharply rose!
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Date: 2011-02-16 04:45 pm (UTC)I thought you were one of those random spam comments for a moment. The "Nice Blog, I really enjoyed your thoughts here are links!"
*throws a pokeball at*
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Date: 2011-02-16 11:15 pm (UTC)Wild AUTHOR used CHAPTER FOUR!
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Date: 2011-03-17 03:56 pm (UTC)Yup.
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Date: 2011-02-23 05:03 am (UTC)It's sad too. Of ALL the character traits (outside the blind one) the talkative kid could be the most interesting. I mean, they might be better at getting into trouble realistically, better at sometimes annoying others realistically, and better at forced interaction.
I'm betting the only reason she even gets forgotten is because her talking is an informed trait. Someone who talks a lot, who really won't shut up, is hard to forget. Especially if they've annoyed you with what they've said recently. Opinionated, mouthy young children who have been educated (ESPECIALLY through the internet) but don't know much about the world first hand are a well-spring of possibilities for tension and plot. But this has been so easily thrown away from the sound of it. XD
A duo of a blind kid and a talkative kid could have rocked really hard if their disadvantages were used appropriately.
I'm suggesting consideration of this if you do rewrite your story, Kippur. If nothing else, it could be pretty awesome to have the talkative kid never shutting up around mad scientists and other experiments... or maybe refusing to talk until freed and then refusing to shut up ever after. XD
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Date: 2011-02-18 02:10 am (UTC)I agree. He clearly wrote this without really thinking about it. I think he did that with all of the kids. I wonder how it would've turned out if he combined all five kids into one kid? Would that make it any better? (Obviously not, because he wrote it without giving a damn, but let us theorize he was actually trying.) Or maybe two kids... but it could be combined into one kid easily enough. Then you'd just need some normal people for the one kid to interact with. Like maybe Jeb could have stuck around and continued actively attempting to protect the kid. I honestly think that's more of what this story needs. I'm not saying make the kid one of a kind. Just the only one of a kind who got free. And maybe be proposing to attempt to save more. :P
Actually... with the way this chapter is? If they had simply been going to try and rescue more and one recaptured in the attempt, that would be much more interesting.
Man, there are so many what-ifs in this book. It's truly a waste of a premise. :(
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Date: 2011-02-22 04:57 pm (UTC)Chapters<-- It's more than one chapter.
I think two, maybe three at most kids would have been all right. Their mentor should have been newly missing ... and yeah.
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Date: 2011-02-23 05:11 am (UTC)Yeah, at least newly missing! I mean, two years is a really long time to just shrug it off. :(
Could even make it so they only leave the safety of their sanctuary because they go looking for their mentor and that's when they get found... or, logically, they presume he was taken to get at them and they leave immediately with any other specific plan in mind simply because they know they're no longer safe there. Could have some fun having the kids argue between themselves about whether or not they should try to rescue him. Also whether or not they should assume he's been taken back to the evil mad scientist base or somewhere else they don't know about yet and thus what course of action they should follow. u_u
Although I think that may have already been said before. I've kind of lost track of all the logic we've expanded on already... :P
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Date: 2011-02-19 09:38 am (UTC)'Maximum Ride' is not the first time he has told this story. The original story was a book called 'When The Wind Blows'. It was apparently written from a more adult perspective, where the children are discovered and helped by two adults, a vet and an FBI agent. The oldest girl was still called 'Maximum', no idea if her last name is 'Ride'. The other kids all have different names, including four-year-old brother and sister, Peter and Wendy. There's a blind kid as well, Icarus, or 'Ic'. Iggy... Ic... marvel of creativity, wot?
There's no Erasers, the kids only have wings and no other powers, and there is a School.
The story continues in a book called 'The Lake House', which is how I found out about this. I must have inherited it from my mother. I flicked through the first few chapters.... not hard, considering that the chapters are generally less than two pages. What I saw seems... well, I wasn't scanning it for the writing so much, but the content was a little better. At least, it made mention that there were definite physiological differences between the winged kids and regular humans. Enlarged pectorals, etc. And apparently the wings were an extension of the arm rather than a separate limb.
Looking at Wikipedia, it also mentions that Max is oviparous, lays eggs, and doesn't have breasts. She also ages differently from humans.
Seems he decided to adapt the story for a younger audience. Why that means it has to become crap, I don't know.
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Date: 2011-02-19 07:08 pm (UTC)I heard that first series didn't do too well in spite of being possibly a little better written/handled than this series. I suppose that's why he altered it and "rewrote" it as a YA series. Which they just released the next to last book for, so apparently it was a good move financially. :P
Hmm
Date: 2011-02-21 08:36 am (UTC)Also, they did have powers, in a way--super intelligence and super strength and--in spite of their physical strangeness--super beauty, apparently. Which is weird, since they were part bird with hollow bones and not made from crows or ostriches, so i would think that would make them dumber and weaker, not the other way around.
It also tried to make the characters seem less like morons than they actually were, for instance, there was one bit that i remember to this day it was so bad, in which max--shoved in a small, animal sized cage--sits around thinking about how to get out, the pov character making note of how her 'super intelligent' brain was working through all the possibilities for escape like a computer. And then what does max do? She takes hold of the bars and just bends them apart, as though this isn't the very first thing most people would do in the simple act of PANICKING, to proclaim, "i'm a strong girl and my IQ is off the charts." while the pov character marvels at the defiance in her tone. This whole thing also reflected badly on the bad guys since THEY MADE THE KIDS AND KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE CAPABLE OF AND YET PUT THEM IN CAGES THAT EVEN ALLOWED THE POSSIBILITY OF PULLING APART THE BARS. what.
In conclusion, james patterson needs to stop getting publsihed.
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Date: 2011-02-21 06:54 pm (UTC)And I never read the Lake House but your description of that scene makes me wonder about two things. First of all, if the cage is animal sized, how small is she and wouldn't it restrict her movement? Second, it's possible she was considering her options for what to do after she got out of the cage and already had bending the bars in mind. But that still leaves the bad guys looking unbearably stupid for not using some other method of restraint. (What other method I'm not sure about but tying her up so that she simply had trouble moving her limbs, in spite of her strength, might have worked better. Chains or silk rope or something... Fuck, maybe actual sticky spider silk since they, I don't know, EXPERIMENT ON HUMANS AND BLEND THEIR DNA WITH ANIMALS.)
Actually... that would be much better than the Eraserheads right there. Human/arachnid hybrids for hunting down the human/bird hybrids. It would be more unique, could include some funny Spiderman jokes, AND if they had webbing could explain why the other kids were left behind (perhaps making a web they thought the kids couldn't escape from or something...) Still a bit dumb but it would at least follow the NATURE of a fucking spider more so. (Although... I guess wolves do catch only one prey at a time in the wild BUT that's only because it's hard capturing more and they are only looking for as much as they can eat at any given moment.) :I
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Date: 2011-03-27 05:55 pm (UTC)This is so horrible and you are so brave for reading this far. I wouldn't have been able to keep going at all after this chapter, with lame fart jokes and non-blind blind people. Good Lord, this is like something eight-year-olds write on Fanfiction.net.
And James Patterson. I know I've read one of his books for adults and hated it, but I can't remember which one it was. I think it was one of his thrillers.