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Greaves and Bracers.

To sum up this chapter: Katrina helps Roran put his armor on. Roran doesn't die from pain of his wounds which seem to have been forgotten. I'm not really sure exactly what to make of this chapter. It's two and a quarter pages long. It doesn't advance the story in anyway (more so than usual).I think it's supposed to be sensual by the way Katrina puts on Roran's armor, but it might have worked better if she was taking it off. Though I suppose some argument could be said to the romance of her protecting him. It's full of very... odd lines.

She cupped the curve of his calf with her hand as she secured the second piece of armor, her flesh warm against his through the fabric of his trousers.

Roran held out his arms to her and stared into her eyes, even as she stared into hers.


Her waist is thickening from her pregnancy. Elain still hasn't given birth. (what? they can't cut the baby out with a healer on hand? I mean if Eragon can cure cancer, surely they can get the baby out of there). She wants to know why he has to be on the front line. Because he's the Hero, obviously. Or because someone has to.

She gives him a favor, a red kerchief which she kept in her boobs... I mean bodice and ties it to his sword belt. But not his sword. Which is sad, because I would have liked to have seen which sword she tied it to.

He then takes his spear and shield, because it's always important to have protection when going out to use your spear, and leaves.

Katrina is not at all satisfied with this.

He goes out to the battle field. The horn sounds. They charge to siege Feinster. For some reason they're having mixed ranks. In this instance I would think that would be a liablity. Each race has its own fighting styles and likely won't work well together. It'd be like mixing your cavalry with your infantry. Of course this is Paolini we're talking about. He's having his men charge into battle while the archer's are firing at them.

And there you go.

Click some dragons:

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Date: 2010-10-07 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
*facepalm*

There are no words.

DDD:

Date: 2010-10-07 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Sure there are. They're just not polite ones.

Date: 2010-10-08 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
Clarification: There are no words in elvish, entish or the tongues of men. Perhaps the orcs uruks urgals might have an appropriate curse-word or two, but I wouldn't count on it.

I'll like to a gif of Julie Andrews punching you in the face (http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/PiperWit/victoriapunch.gif), instead. Just imagine that this is the last thing Paolini ever sees.

Date: 2010-10-07 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenswept.livejournal.com
Why do I get the armor scene from The Last Samurai vibes from this?

Date: 2010-10-07 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
I think Paolini has some really odd fetishes.

Dude has no idea how to write the military, either. I mean, using dwarves and humans together might work if they're drilling in turtle techniques with the dwarves on bottom slashing at legs and the humans hacking away from up top. That's assuming there's enough space. I mean, you'd need pretty fucking big shields to pull that off, otherwise everyone would be getting in everyone else's way.

But even that wouldn't work unless they'd be excessively drilled on it. Roman battle techniques (which that is based off) required a hell of a lot of training and drilling in order to be anywhere near combat effective, and it would be COMPLETELY different from any other sort of combat. Using different muscles etc.

Well, at least Roran has a spear. I bet he's just going to throw it at someone (that's what javelins are for, not spears, all javelins are spears but not all spears are javelins) and then pull his sword out and act like a kid with ADHD and sociopathy.

"Following orders or staying in battle formation? What's that? CHARGE FOR KATRINA LOLOL I KILL MORE PEOPLE THAN IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE."

Date: 2010-10-07 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
We've never seen them practice formations, have we? Tactics seem to be Throw Everything We Have at the Enemy at the Same Time.

They're only NPCs, so why does it matter?

I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

Date: 2010-10-07 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
It's like a kid playing Starcraft. "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AAAAAH MAKE BIG MONSTERS AND SEND THEM TOWARDS BASE". :') Bless 'is little cotton socks.

Yeah, but it's important to manage your NPCs carefully. Games give bonus experience if you save lots of them and sometimes you even get items! :p Which often led to me putting all the combat-capable NPCs at the back of the group and fighting only with my player characters because otherwise I'd lose out on XP, but that's just how it is. =p

We will! I wish you did these faster, they'd one of the most entertaining things on the internet (alongside WTF D&D? and similar entertainment). :p

Date: 2010-10-08 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lenka0602.livejournal.com
My money is on Elaine being the next step in human evolution with the baby being born by osmosis after a 2 year gestation period.
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Date: 2010-10-08 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
Think again. There's still and finally

DDD:

Date: 2010-10-08 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
The first thing already happened.

Date: 2010-10-09 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
Did it? Damn, this book has so much blank space and filler that I forget where in all of that the actual events happen. Did you make special mention of Paolini's pathetically awkward attempt at male bonding, in that scene where all of the village men are making jokes at Roran's expense?

Date: 2010-10-09 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Of course this is assuming there are actual events in between the so called filler.

Date: 2010-10-09 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I'm on page 687 of 748 pages. So about 61 pages. I don't know. Could you build up to and write a satisfying climax in that amount of time?

Probably not.

Date: 2010-10-11 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
And, let's be honest, if kj couldn't do it, I doubt Paolini can.

I can't even remember where this book ends. I remember something so moronic that I blanked it from my memory.

Date: 2010-10-11 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
You'll love the final few scenes, they're totally epic.

Epic fail, that is.

Date: 2010-10-13 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
Is it a stupid, moronic, useless death that goes completely against everything else that's happened in the series and Eragon gets his first Dragonball?
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Date: 2010-10-13 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
I'm sure I'd love to see you attempt it. xP

Date: 2010-10-09 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Sigh, still makeing fun of Eragon? Surely you must have somthing better to do.

Get life l-o-s-e-r
(BTW I just stopped by to see if you were still bashing the poor book. Thought you might have grown up, but it looks like I'm wrong.)

Date: 2010-10-09 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
You know, you're a bit late to the party. I mean I've been doing these since... 2007? If I haven't stopped now, what makes you think I would have stopped because of your comments?

And I do it because it entertains me. I'm sure you must have better things to do than to tell me that I should have better things to do.

Date: 2010-10-09 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't expect you to stop because of what I say, I was just giving my two cents. I guess I have better things to do with my time, but I finally have a break from my work. I've been having one of those nice do nothing days.

Date: 2010-10-09 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
You're more than welcome to give your two cents. And you're also welcomed to refute what I'm saying in a clear and logical discourse, which is something that I hope to encourage. This isn't bashing the books. This is a critical look at the books through the eyes of someone trained in the concepts of literature.

If you read through them, you'll notice that when things work I do point them out. The problem is that Paolini's way of writing things constantly takes good ideas and makes them die horrible death. He knows what he wants to do with the tropes and things of a fantasy story he just doesn't have the skills needed to put them together coherently.

It's like he's trying to create a creature from the outside in. He knows there are supposed to be things inside the creature but he doesn't know how the heart interacts with the lungs so he just puts them there in random places hoping that they work. Or believing that they work.

Also he claims that he knows how to do things but simple research done on the internet proves that he only has a cursory - if that - understanding of what it is. Often times he tries to show his work but since he doesn't know how it works it just comes off poorly.

But please, do comment. As long as your polite I will not censor you.

Date: 2010-10-09 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Not going to argue with you on those things. Paolini isn't the best of writer. It's sad, some of his ideas could have been good.
I remember when I first read Eragon and thought it was awesome. It was everything I had been looking for in a book. I had never read Lord of the Rings or seen Star Wars, so I had no clue it copied off them. I guess I'm still clinging on to what I thought of it as a kid. I might read it again and see how awful it is.
Sorry I've been rude. Been dealing with a ton of stress and seems like I hardly have antime to do anything.

Date: 2010-10-09 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
lul wat.

You made him want you, Kippur.
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Date: 2010-10-10 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
Oh man, I loved Flight of the Navigator.

Also, anon, there's the small fact that it is extremely entertaining to critique Paolini, because there's just so much to say. He fails at everything literary that he's tried that we have access to, and in such a deep and multifaceted way that it's almost a fractal failure. The deeper you go, you realise that it fails just as much microscopically at it does in the big picture. If nothing else, it's fascinating to see how all of these failures interact to produce a massive fail that is greater than the sum of its parts.
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Date: 2010-10-11 05:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
Awesome. For the record, I am upset that there isn't more stone-age fantasy. :P

... Which is why I'm writing a stone-age fantasy. Derp. Well, pseudo-late-stone age. Certainly before agriculture, anyway.

Date: 2010-10-11 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
It always disappoints me there aren't many stone-age games. I mean, early era Civilization is my favourite part.

Date: 2010-10-11 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
AoE1 does it for me. I just stay in Stone Age mode, building storage pits and chopping wood.

Date: 2010-10-12 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
Gameplay Footage of BC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCzLbJxp1V8
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Date: 2010-10-13 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
There was going to be a "secret enemy" beyond human-like apes and dinosaurs.

I suspect it was meant to be in the far distant future.

But, yeah, they'd never really planned on realism, it was meant to be good fun. :3
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Date: 2010-10-12 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autarkhos.livejournal.com
@torylltales&kj: I just wish BC (http://www.thunderboltgames.com/previews/article/bc-preview-for-xbox.html) had came out. It was a pretty epic idea for a game and then Lionhead went completely off the tracks and started making really shitty sequels for games (come on, Molyneux, you're known for innovation, what's wrong with you?) leading to it getting cancelled. Even with 5% of the features that were promised (which is usually what you get in Molyneux games) it'd've still been damn epic.

Date: 2010-10-16 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
I also just realized the IJ isn't tagged, from what I can see, so here's one of the lists putting things in easy-find-mode. The LJ is also tagged. The IJ has some of the newer ones on it but at least you don't have to dig to find the later ones. :)

Date: 2010-10-16 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
Hey, KJ, if you haven't heard about this already, I'd highly recommend Limyaael's Fantasy Rants which used to be on LJ but moved at the beginning of this year/end of last year. She hasn't updated in a long time but I've greatly enjoyed what she has written. It's a very useful break-down of the standard tropes and how she feels they can be successfully revitalized or ignored in favor of other options, which she generally lists.

(Also, I keep meaning to buy your books off of Amazon. I just keep forgetting to try and find them and then before I know it, I've already spent most of my free budget on something else. Also, sorry if I haven't responded to some responses in the past. I keep forgetting to check back on those and I log into my email kinda rarely.) ^_^;

Date: 2010-10-11 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
That's fine. And again, you're more than welcome to stick around and comment. I try to foster a nice community of thinkers here.

Lots of people have thought that Eragon was good and I'm not saying their wrong. I'm just putting out my own evidence.

You've been very mature about this. It makes me happy. ^_^

Date: 2010-10-15 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo con usted. Eragon es un libro terrible. Me alegro de haber encontrado su sporkings y no puedo esperar para leer más!

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