Serious Kippur is Serious

[kippurbird]

This may seem a bit random, but it's something I've been thinking about.

I don't think that a two state solution is going to work. For one reason it reminds me of when they pacified Germany by giving them a bit of France and a bit of Czechoslovakia after they were taken over. They shook their fingers and said we'll give you these countries but no more making war. This is sort of what the United States and the other countries are doing. We'll give you your own country but you'll have to stop trying to destroy Israel.

Which is highly unlikely.

The Palestinians cry constantly that they want their own state but they don't do anything to make the territories that they have livable and they don't do anything to make peace with the Israelis. They constantly attack Israel and then cry foul when Israel tries to protect themselves from getting attacked. If they'd stop attacking then I'm sure Israel would be more willing to negotiate.

Negotiating with them now is negotiating with terrorists. They haven't done anything to prove themselves safe and decent. Giving into them now would just show that their behaviour is acceptable.

So... yeah.

Comments

[kevias.livejournal.com]

After World War II, the Allies solved the "German Question" by simply taking every German outside the borders of the newly shrunken borders of Germany and shoving them inside.

The hardliners on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian question seem to have much the same idea. Take the ethnicity in question and dump them over the border, be it the Jordan River or the Mediterranean, thus leaving a much-simpler One State Solution.

Also, prior to World War II, Hitler was not demanding anything that his democratic predecessors had asked for before him. Danzig was 95% German, but given to Poland. The Sudetenland was primarily German. Returning such territories to Germany (via plebiscite) was just and reasonable. Doing so in reaction to Hitler's crass demands was not.

[huinesoron.livejournal.com]

Just and reasonable, but forbidden by treaty. At least as I learnt it (and up the page we can see how badly it sunk in, but still) the Treaty of Versailles explicitly forbade Germany uniting with or annexing any other Germanic territories. That's why even the Anschluss with Austria, which was at least claimed to be mutual, was against the Treaty.

Of course, any treaty which contains something like the "War Guilt Clause" is going to be grossly unfair in the first place, but still...