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Chapter Forty Three.

Finally. After about six chapters of nattering and wishing washing and completely wandering off the subject, they get to sniffing at Noel and Travis. Or Anita does.



Noel doesn't pass. "He smelled like food, but not food for the ardeur. He smelled like meat that just hadn't stopped squirming yet." She bites him as if trying to tear a chunk from his tummy. "I buried my mouth in the soft, easy flesh of his belly. I took as much of his flesh into my mouth as I could hold, and not draw blood. I bit him, hard and deep, and it took all my willpower to rise up from that flesh, and leave it whole."

Nice creepy lady, isn't she.

Of course, it always gets worse. Noel gets designate Food. The following discussion ensues:

I finally opened my eyes, to watch drag his shirt back over his body. He wouldn't meet anyone's eyes, as if he'd failed.

"It's okay, Noel. Auggie and Pierce are right, Joseph shops for bottoms."

"He's not a bottom," Nathaniel said. "If he had been he'd have enjoyed the biting, and the danger. It might even have been enough to push you from food to sex." Nathaniel shrugged. "He's too straightlaced."



Isn't that funny? Here all this time I thought that bottom =/= submissive. Some bottoms might be submissive, but that doesn't mean that all bottoms are submissive. This just sort of shows exactly how much Hamilton understands relationships. Also, just because you like getting bit and danger also doesn't mean that you're a submissive and/or bottom. Of course, I wouldn't want to get touched by Anita anyway, especially if she's doing all sorts of weird biting things and wanting me to be food.

Actually, the fact that they're, Noel and Travis, are being forced to be tried for "food" is also practically rape. Or at least being give up to the dragon to save the village. They're willing sacrifices, but they are still sacrifices. I'm actually thinking they're pretty brave to volunteer for such a "job". They're willing to sacrifice their lives and freedom just so that they're not taken over by some bad lion who'll make them become lion first human second.

Travis has to request Anita to come to him, because he can't get to her. The requesting shouldn't have to happen. They shouldn't have to have crawled to Anita and the others. Anita should have come to him by default.

Of course, if we really wanted to go down that path, then this entire thing should happen at all. But that is, of course, like hoping my cat will actually stop jumping on me around six in the morning demanding to be fed. It's scary! He usually jumps from atop the dresser and makes a huge THUD. Not a fun way to get woken up.

But I digress.

Anita begins to crawl (for some reason) to Travis. Nathaniel joins her (for some reason). When asked why he was crawling with her he says that it's because he's submissive because he likes it. And that he's the only submissive that she's collected. I vaguely recall her being utterly furious at her men being called "collected" saying that she only fucks them because she loves them. Here she gives no protest. Hello hypocrisy haven't seen you in a few chapters. Still no reason give why she needs a submissive.

She says that her vampire servant isn't dominant and Nathaniel says that's "because he doesn't have the power to be dominant. I'm submissive because I like it." I do believe that's the reason why people are generally submissive. At least sexually. When you're talking about jobs, then yes people will be submissive to their bosses. This is what is happening, I believe in Damian's case.

Going back to my story I wrote about Orion and Alec, Alec was completely submissive to Orion not because he wanted to be, but because Orion made him like that, or made him believe he wanted that. And even still, when dealing with other people he's not submissive at all. Despite this lack of submissiveness he does prefer to be on the bottom, somewhat shooting Hamilton's theories out of the water. In my humble writerly opinion.

But back to the book. A wolf, Jason, shows up. I believe he's her fuck buddy mentioned earlier. In our obligatory paragraph of description, we learn why he's not a permanent member of her harem. He has short hair.

"You ran?" and it was Jason coming into the hallway. His short blond hair was cut neat and tidy like a junior executive. The body would have qualified, if the executive worked out in the gym enough. He was about my height, short for a man, and boyishly handsome most of the time. But he glanced at Noel getting shakily to his feet, Travis with his obvious wounds, Nathaniel and I so close together and him so very nude. Jason took it all in, and his face changed. I could never put my finger on it, but he looked suddenly older, more grown-up, and his eyes, the color of spring skies, filled up with a knowledge, a weight of intelligence. He hid it most of the time, but there was a very nice mind in that smiling, very nice body.


Notice the lack of the obviously long description of what he's wearing. She only barely describes his hair, body and eyes. Also, apparently, she's indicating that junior executives don't work out. I think.

Still this is not the kicker. The following is. Which probably explains a SHITload about Hamilton's views on sex, since, of course Anita is her Sue.

"Tell me what position you want me in," Jason said, "and I'm your man." He wiggled his eyebrows and gave me that grin. That grin that said he was thinking cheerful nefarious thoughts. Most people made sex dark, but not Jason. He was a cheerful lecher.


Emphasis mine. The fact that Anita, and therefor Hamilton, believes that sex is dark puts in perspective all her previous sex acts. All of them were "dark". Rape is, after all, dark. I'm reminded of that ultra feminist woman who believe that Firefly was the spawn of evil and the most anti-female thing to exist on the planet. ( here if you want a laugh) One of her brilliant opinions is that all sex between a man and a woman was rape. No matter what, or with whom. Every woman is a slave to her men. (She really didn't like Zoe.) The point I'm trying to make here is that if all sex = rape, then it doesn't matter how you do it, or how obvious it is rape, even if it didn't seem like rape it still is. At least, I believe, in Hamilton's mind. The fact that Jason here is the exception to the rule as opposed to the rule proves the point.

Though, I'd be willing to listen otherwise.

Graham starts to throw a hissy fit when Jason shows up. Exactly why he continues to be on Anita duty is beyond me. But it's all forgotten when Meng Die shows up. Here's her paragraph of description:

She was one of the few women who ever made me thing, delicate. She was tinier than I was, so fragile looking. Maybe that was why she almost always wore black leather, very dominatrix. The clothes suited her though, catlike, skintight, scary, and sexy all at the same time. Yeah, scary, sexy, that summed Meng Die up perfectly


Hrmm... so if clothes show what they want to be. What does that make Jean-Claude? An enormous poofter? And would that make Nathaniel Richard Simmons?

Meng Die goes after almost every man in the hallway. Those who weren't attached to Anita. Or I should say, those who aren't attached to Anita, but want to be. Requiem, Jason, and Graham. All of them turn her down, Jason saying "But sometimes I prefer to make love, not just fuck." and then, ""Anita makes it impossible just to fuck her." Requiem adds, "Because sex is almost never causal with Anita, it makes sex with Anita almost never causal."

It's never causal with Anita, because she never does it unless she needs to feed or something. At least, it's always done with a purpose. Never casual. And I don't see why casual sex is a bad thing. She's not going to really be in a committed relationship with any of these men. Sure, she lives with them and things like that, but they're more like puppets. They'll never share bank accounts. It doesn't seem like they ever go on dates together. It's just as much a fuck for her as it is Meng Die. As she says, "Making love, it's all just pretty words for fucking."

Reasonably, she gets upset. She asks Damian and he says "we fuck when we can't find anyone else." Auggie says, "We're just doing business" Noel says she scares him because "Anita may hurt me by accident, but I think you'd hurt me just to see me bleed."

Anita, in regards to Noel, says "Damn perceptive for walking food". I'm sorry, but since when does being food equate to being dumb? Noel's in college. An English major and believe me that doesn't leave much room for being dumb.

London then shows up, looking for his fix and she asks him and "he glanced at her, but that was all. His eyes were set on me as if I were his north star and he was lost at sea without me. Shit."

Duh. You re-addicted him again. You fucking moronic bitch.

Meng Die wants to know why London is so interested in Antia if he's not her type. Anita says that they accidentally had sex. Meng Die wants to know you accidentally have sex.

Anita: Oh my, I seemed to have accidentally made you take off your pants.

London: Oh my, I seemed to have accidentally put my penis into your vagina.

Anita: Oh my, we seem to be having sex.

London: Oh my, how did that ever happen since we're completely not interested in each other?

>.>

Meng Die pulls a knife out, probably to hurt London. Don't blame her personally. In any case, she ends up promising that she will try not to kill anyone that night.

London bows to Anita and asks if she'd feed on him, if she needs. She's all why do you want me to feed on you? London has to state the obvious for her.

"What's the downside to being able to feed teh arduer like this?" I asked, looking back at the vampire kneeling at my feet.

"Everyone is eventually addicted to the ardeur, but for me, the addiction is immediate."

"You're addicted again?"

"Yes." His eyes were so peaceful, more peaceful than I'd ever seen them. He looked happier and more at home in his own skin than ever before. I looked up, and it was Nathaniel's gaze that I caught. He looked solemn, eyes not peaceful at all.

"You're always look happy at the beginning of an addiction," Nathaniel said.

"What happens later?" I asked.

"You die."


I'm sorry, but what particular hole is Anita living in? She knew that London is easily addicted to the ardeur when they talked about using him earlier. This is why he didn't want to be anywhere near her. Plus, as someone who works with vampires who have addictive bites as well as just, in theory, being an intelligent person, should know what happens to a person that's addicted to something.

Also, the fact that London threw himself at her feet and begged to have her feed again, would be a bit of an obvious clue that he was addicted.

Date: 2008-06-17 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightrosefox.livejournal.com
So, wait, wait... *pinches bridge of nose* LKH and Anita are talking about addiction. And it's still okay. Yeah, okay, addiction to Anita is peachy keen.
Right?
Oy.

Date: 2008-06-18 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
You didn't notice the slight bit of oh shit in Anita's voice?

Neither did I.

Date: 2008-06-19 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easol.livejournal.com
Don't worry, because Anita is the fount of luv and life and happiness, so being addicted to her magic vagina is a GOOD thing. Got it? EVERYTHING having to do with Anita is wonderful!

*barfs*

Date: 2008-06-17 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamelina.livejournal.com
Oh, God, my head hurts. There is just so much wrong in this book. Soooooo much wrong. Where do I begin?

1. the whole "Food or Sex" thing always creeped me out. How can you classify everyone in the world as either food or sex? Ok, my bad, all the guys in the world as food or sex. She only sees women as either rivals or there to protect her because they are asexual butches. (no, that's not mispelled, I didn't replace the "i" with a "u")

2. Her view of sex is screwed up six ways from Sunday. All of her views of sex. Not just her uneducated views of BDSM. And i don't care how many clubs she's gone to, LKH knows nothing about BDSM. Heck! I only had one friend who was interested in BDSM and I know more then LKH does from the meager conversations we had. In a real BDSM relationship, the sub has all the power! Believe it or not! It's all about trust and the sub has the power to tell the domme how much pain s/he is willing to take. And then trust the domme to only go that far. If a domme goes farther, pushing the talorance of the sub, the sub can leave. If you want to hold on to your lover, you respect his/her bounderies and take his/her comfort into mind. Some dommes will go beyond that comfort level, but if teh sub says, "I don't want to ever do that again," they have to take that into consideration.

LKH doesn't! She has Anita as a domme to her men, and she never thinks about their comfort level. There is never a safety word. There is no trust! "Anita may hurt me by accident, but I think you'd hurt me just to see me bleed." Hurt me by accident shouldn't happen at all! Not if you know what you're doing.

3. Jason becomes a permament member of the hisem in Blood Noir. Short hair or not. Along with some faceless dudes who are introduced in that book.

4. Can I just say that I love Meng Die? She starts off as pretty much a faceless nothing in Incubus Dreams and becomes one of us, a jellus haterz. She is one of the mouthpieces for the critism that LKH recieves. Like Bunny was, remember her from a few chapters back? She was the one who was only there so the auther can point out that all men are attracted to Anita's natural beauty. Even gay men. Meng Die is the jealous hater who wants to know why no other woman can hold a guy who has been with Anita.

The answer: the sun shines for Anit's ass, so no other woman can dare touch the wonderfulness that is the goddess. Gag me.

Oh, and let's not forget the original mouthpiece, Ronnie, the best friend who got trashed at the beginning of the book. She was always the voice of reason (makes you wonder who LKH modeled her after). In the first few books, she tries to persuade Anita to stay with Richard and dump JC. I'd say she's the part of LKH's concious that said, "stay with your husband (cause Richard was modeled after her first husband) and not stray". Sure enough, after the divorce, Ronnie started becoming a bitch and the eventual blow-out was in this book. I doubt we'll see much of Ronnie again, unless she's in a body bag.

5. Accidently having sex my pristine white ass. No one has accidental sex. There is sex with both partners willing, there is rape with only one partner willing (and often only about power and not the sexual act itself). I've even heard of sleep sex (my ex would get randy in his sleep and dream of having sex and try to act it out while he was asleep. Ok, I'm not convinced about that either), but never accidental sex.

6. I have my life savings on the fact that, even though Anita now knows that the Ardon't is an addictive drug that can and will kill your victims if used long enough, she won't care by the next book or forgotten all about it. Heck, she can't even remember that they talked about it being addictive a few chapters back, and she knew it could drain and kill her lovers if only used on one or a small number. That's why she has to collect men like some people collected Beanie Babies. Or Pokemon. Gotta catch them all!

I'm gonna be sick now.

Date: 2008-06-18 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
1. the whole "Food or Sex" thing always creeped me out. How can you classify everyone in the world as either food or sex?

I believe a lot of animals do that...? Which doesn't speak very well for Anita's humanity, does it?

2. LKH doesn't! She has Anita as a domme to her men, and she never thinks about their comfort level. There is never a safety word. There is no trust! "Anita may hurt me by accident, but I think you'd hurt me just to see me bleed." Hurt me by accident shouldn't happen at all! Not if you know what you're doing.


Oh, but you see, what Anita is doing isn't BDSM. She just has regular sex with them. The hurting is just... well.. you notice no one is tied, up right? =D

3.3. Jason becomes a permament member of the hisem in Blood Noir. Short hair or not. Along with some faceless dudes who are introduced in that book.

Such the fate of anyone who fucks Anita?

4.Can I just say that I love Meng Die?

I admit to ambivalence about her until she actually showed up. Now, I too, like her. For the same reasons.

6. have my life savings on the fact that, even though Anita now knows that the Ardon't is an addictive drug that can and will kill your victims if used long enough, she won't care by the next book or forgotten all about it.

Hah. I bet she won't remember in a few chapters even.

Date: 2008-06-19 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easol.livejournal.com
I love Meng Die. She's totally honest and totally right, and though she's portrayed as this evil loveless bitch, she is far better than Anita because at least she wants sex for sex. Not "food," not rape, not endless faux-luv. Sex.

Actually Iheard that Ronnie was based on a person who sided with Gary Hamilton pre and during divorce. Hence her suddenly turning into an evil jellus bitch.

Date: 2008-06-19 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malganis.livejournal.com
I've seen a lot of this sort of S&M BS in fanfics, too. The scenario is that *insert canon character's name here* kidnaps/enslaves *insert canon character's name here* and forces him/her to become their "love slave". Which invariably means LOTS of brutal beatings, mutilations, tortures, and rape. There is NO safe word and NO consent from the enslaved partner.

And this 'fantasy' is told, usually, from the point of view of the enslaved character.

This is what the female fanfic-reading world is being conditioned to think is sexy. *pukes*

Date: 2008-06-17 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lccorp2.livejournal.com
Words fail me.

This is indeed bad.

Date: 2008-06-18 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
*gives cookies*

Date: 2008-06-17 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
"I buried my mouth in the soft, easy flesh of his belly. I took as much of his flesh into my mouth as I could hold, and not draw blood. I bit him, hard and deep, and it took all my willpower to rise up from that flesh, and leave it whole."

O_O Just when I thought she couldn't get any more revolting...she does. I've lost track of whether it's stakes or silver or just plain old ordinary weapons one ought to be using on Anita, but it's way past time for someone to take her out.

She sees the people around her as sub-Anita (I can't say sub-human, because Anita is easily the least human person in this book.), and Food or Sex with no thought to what they want or the possibility of addicting them and she doesn't want to take responsibility for her actions. Accidental sex? Now, sex between two drunk people might qualify in a sense, but I don't remember either London or Anita (especially Anita) being drunk. But I'm using Earth logic, which this book has never heard of.

And happy, peaceful addiction... CREEEEEEEEPY! And wrong on so many levels. Like the rest of this book shaped piece of kindling.

Date: 2008-06-18 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mranon-y-mous.livejournal.com
You can too have accidental sex. See it only happens when two people are naked and one trips and falls and their naughty parts connect, they have accidental sex.

Date: 2008-06-18 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamelina.livejournal.com
You can too have accidental sex. See it only happens when two people are naked and one trips and falls and their naughty parts connect, they have accidental sex.

Again and again and again...

right?

Date: 2008-06-18 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mranon-y-mous.livejournal.com
You mean they try to break apart? Whenever it happens to me, we just stay that way. A couple of time I'll look to the other person and say "You got your chocolate in my peanut butter." (Only replace chocolate with penis and peanut butter with vagina.) Like in those old Reese's Peanut Butter Cup commercial.

Date: 2008-06-18 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
O_O Just when I thought she couldn't get any more revolting...she does. I've lost track of whether it's stakes or silver or just plain old ordinary weapons one ought to be using on Anita, but it's way past time for someone to take her out.

Vampire!Kale and Trever suggest sending her through a meat grinder. They say it'll solve every problem.

Date: 2008-06-18 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malganis.livejournal.com
Do all the vampires in this series have such stupid names as London and Requiem?

And do they ever do anything remotely vampirish, like, say, drinking people's blood?

Damn, I want me some ugly vampires like in Nosferatu. At least those poor things don't get all Sue'd to hell.

Are there ugly vampires in the Anita-verse, by any chance?

Date: 2008-06-18 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mranon-y-mous.livejournal.com
Yes, there are two named Wicked and Truth too.

Drink blood you say? Why heavens no, drinking blood is garsh. They rape people too feed their plot device.

Yes, if you count Asher (He has a facial scar, oh noes! D=) and Jason. They're sooo ugly, and Anita doesn't want to have hot sexxorz with them. And she doesn't want to knock nasties with Asher because he only does it in the butt. Some say he likes the cock, but those are just silly rumors.

Date: 2008-06-18 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malganis.livejournal.com
Drink blood you say? Why heavens no, drinking blood is garsh.

But...but that's what vampires do!

See, that's why I watched about five minutes of Underworld and then turned it off.

Yes, if you count Asher (He has a facial scar, oh noes! D=) and Jason. They're sooo ugly, and Anita doesn't want to have hot sexxorz with them.

Sooo, no pasty, rail-thin bald guys with bat ears and pointy front teeth, then? *sadface* Because those are the really sexy vamps.

Hey, wait, don't vampires spawn kids that have Vlad Syndrome? Are there any wildly ugly deformities with that?

Date: 2008-06-18 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mranon-y-mous.livejournal.com
Us little people shall not think about Vlad Syndrome. It is too devistating to even talk about, it's what LHK would have said.

Date: 2008-06-18 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malganis.livejournal.com
Aw, c'mon, I wanna think about it. It sounds a damn sight more interesting than anything I've read in these books, that's for sure.

Date: 2008-06-18 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mranon-y-mous.livejournal.com
It's probably some sort of heart condition anyway. Laurell isn't very good at giving things other than Anita's vagina depth. I would love for Vlad's Syndrome to be a subverison of Progeria. (Godspeed Progeria kids, godspeed.)

Date: 2008-06-18 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malganis.livejournal.com
Laurell isn't very good at giving things other than Anita's vagina depth.

Anita's vagina must stretch all the way to the Earth's core, then, it's been drilled so many times.

And damn. It's like she's set up this fascinating alternate-universe urban fantasy scenario and then abandoned it for crappy sex scenes I could read and spork for free on any Internet site.

I obviously need to write my own urban fantasy wherein vampirism is a really nasty, incurable disease that makes the character, physically, into a wasted-looking ghoul who can only get night jobs...mainly because they're so hideous that other people can't stand to look at them.

...Nobody steal my idea, now. *huggles idea* It's just that, while I adore Christopher Lee's Dracula (and of course the popular image of Peter Steele as a vampire), I love Nosferatu-esque vampires the best. And NO ONE in urban fantasy is doing anything interesting or nuanced with them. It's just like in these stupid Anita Blake books or dozens of badfics. If you're ugly, no one will love you in any way, shape, or form... and you can't have sex. If you're not conventionally pretty and angsty, ditto. If you have an addiction or a problem, but it's not glamorized and sexualized by the author, mega-ditto. And did I mention no one will love you? It's just the stupidest crap.

Date: 2008-06-18 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mranon-y-mous.livejournal.com
I obviously need to write my own urban fantasy wherein vampirism is a really nasty, incurable disease that makes the character, physically, into a wasted-looking ghoul who can only get night jobs...mainly because they're so hideous that other people can't stand to look at them.

I had vampires that looked like that, they're way different now. Still look pasty and thin, but not to the degree I originally thought. They had nothing other than that though...

I made vampires that must feed in order to look human, if they stop they waste away and turn into mummies. No, really, I have the weirdest idea for my vampires. Like them not being undead, but cursed. Aren't I just crazy? Oh and they have a queen to which they worship as a god, and all the vampire men are her hisem and eats the men that she mates with.

Date: 2008-06-19 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easol.livejournal.com
"Oh and they have a queen to which they worship as a god, and all the vampire men are her hisem and eats the men that she mates with."

Wait... that sounds like the Anita Blake series!

Date: 2008-06-19 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easol.livejournal.com
According to LKH, Vlad syndrome is fatal to all concerned, so an abortion immediately follows. Therefore, the appearance doesn't really matter. Then again, if bald-ugly-deformed were a possibility she would probably choose the same option.

Oh, and kippurbird rules for pointing out that Truth and Wicked = Legolas and Aragorn minus personality/nobility/balls...

Date: 2008-06-18 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamelina.livejournal.com
the "idea" that came out was that no two vampires could have the same name, and no last names were used. So, you can't have a John Doe and John Smith, one or both has to change his name.

Which is why (supposedly) the older the vampire, the more "normal" the name since s/he got to it first. The farther down the road you go, the more they have to change their name to keep it as only one per name. I think it also counts for various spellings (no Poiter and Peter and Peytor).

Think of it like clown make-up. Registered clowns can't copy another clown. Each face is unique and registered to a specific clown. Though, I think when a clown retires, that face can be opened up for another to use after a point in time. Would that count in vampires as well? If JC was staked, would the name Jean-Claude be opened up for another to use since there is no longer a vampire named that?

Date: 2008-06-18 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malganis.livejournal.com
So, basically they have to keep making up progressively stupider names? Kinda like rock bands, then.

I mean, why? What sense does that make?

And you made me think of clown vampires. *shudder*

Date: 2008-06-18 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malganis.livejournal.com
Why do I imagine that as an Evil Laugh? ;)

Date: 2008-06-18 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Is this idea "canon"?

and no last names were used

That's dumb.

If JC was staked, would the name Jean-Claude be opened up for another to use since there is no longer a vampire named that?

We should try!

Date: 2008-06-18 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamelina.livejournal.com
it is cannon. I remember it was mentioned in a book. Can't remember which one, but it is part of the official cannon.

Date: 2008-06-18 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
A good deal of them do.

And do they ever do anything remotely vampirish, like, say, drinking people's blood?

Um... no? Not that I've seen?

Date: 2008-06-18 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamelina.livejournal.com
Icon twins!

I should change my icon. I actually read and reread your post going, "I don't remember posting that"

Date: 2008-06-19 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I do the same thing! =D

Date: 2008-06-18 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acdragonmaster.livejournal.com
...see I like how I spent a good part of my afternoon idly pondering horrible (but amusing) fic/story scenarios. And then I come home and read this, and even the worst I could come up with is infinitely better.

Date: 2008-06-18 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
It's like Published is worse than Fan Fiction. XD

Date: 2008-06-19 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acdragonmaster.livejournal.com
No kidding. Someone ought to get some GOOD stuff published. Maybe if enough people read a few decent things it'll spoil them enough that they don't bother with this nonsense...

Date: 2008-06-18 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] subieko.livejournal.com
Anita bites him and calls him food, and he thinks she won't hurt him on purpose? Well, sure, she won't do it for fun--because she doesn't give a damn about him. To her, he's just a TOOL, and not even a good one, if she's going 'he was pretty smart for food'. That's just...dehumanizing him.

And I love Ming Dei. A voice of reason at last! Too bad she'll be ignored and trashed...*sighs*

Also, Nathaniel gets creepier and creepier. What the hell is wrong with him? And WHY HAVEN'T THEY HELPED THE DYING GUY YET!?

Date: 2008-06-18 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amamelina.livejournal.com
Wait, there's a dying guy? I forgot all about him.

Date: 2008-06-18 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Well, I wouldn't say dying but he has a broken arm and at least two cracked ribs that he hasn't gotten treated yet and I believe he's going into shock.

Date: 2008-06-18 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
I prefer reading about cold-hearted, sneering psychopaths who KNOW they're egotistical, heartless shits and frankly don't give a damn to those who self-justify. I actually enjoyed the first half of the first chapter of Blood Canticle because Lestat was such a self-centered ass it was funny. Then the prose went downhill, but still...

I'll take an out-of-universe explanation where the men are just saying that they prefer Anita because they KNOW she'll destroy them if they don't. More terrifying, but more reasonable.

Jason sounds cute... and apparently a tad manipulative beneath that cheerful grin of his, if my out-of-universe explanation holds. There, there, Jason, you can join my Exploited Characters camp. Ronald Weasley was the first member, for obvious reasons if you've endured too much HP badfic.

Now I want an OT3 with Jason, Travis, and Noel. They have more personality and short haircuts. XD (Poor Jason, I hear he gets ruined in Blood Noir...)

She's trying to EAT Noel? That's it, the official New Fetish That Will Rear Its Ugly Head is vore. Pedophilia will fight with it, though, considering Kitto and Nathaniel. >_< Help... brain... gone...

Date: 2008-06-18 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I prefer reading about cold-hearted, sneering psychopaths who KNOW they're egotistical, heartless shits and frankly don't give a damn to those who self-justify.

Me too.

Now I want an OT3 with Jason, Travis, and Noel. They have more personality and short haircuts. XD (Poor Jason, I hear he gets ruined in Blood Noir...)

They're either gay or they fall into the harem?

Noel= food. Thus, according to her lioness, he's okay to eat.

Date: 2008-06-19 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acdragonmaster.livejournal.com
I prefer reading about cold-hearted, sneering psychopaths who KNOW they're egotistical, heartless shits and frankly don't give a damn to those who self-justify.

I hear you there. Some of the best villains are the ones who are shamelessly self-centered. Heck there's a manga series I'm reading that pretty much the only reason I got into it was because the main antagonist IS an intelligent but ruthless bastard who does not care who he has to maim or murder if it's the most effective way to get what he wants, for example.

Date: 2008-06-18 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elegantelbow.livejournal.com
Hi!

I've been reading your analysis and laughing and laughing. My sweetheart ([livejournal.com profile] attutle) keeps wanting to know wtf I'm reading.

I wrote my own (unsent) letter to LKH here: http://elegantelbow.livejournal.com/358810.html

I found your LJ through comments in [livejournal.com profile] james_nicoll's LJ.

Cheers!

-Ele

Date: 2008-06-19 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Share with your loved ones!

I liked the letter. You should send it.

Glad to see a new face. Even if it's only half. XD

Date: 2008-06-19 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gjohnsonkoehn.livejournal.com
That Firefly rant nearly made my eyes bleed; I had to close the tab when the writer started talking about how absolutely awful it was that a white man was giving a black woman orders! Gasp! As though they were somehow people, and not mindless, featureless avatars of the Cruel White Oppressor and the Honourable Minority Victim!

Also, even animals have more classifications than food and sex. There's 'useless - avoid', 'dangerous - avoid' and 'dangerous - kill' if nothing else.

Date: 2008-06-19 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I guess that means I shouldn't find you "Our Misses Reynolds" then?

Also, even animals have more classifications than food and sex. There's 'useless - avoid', 'dangerous - avoid' and 'dangerous - kill' if nothing else.

Point.

Date: 2008-06-19 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gjohnsonkoehn.livejournal.com
Oh gods, if she got that offended by the idea of two adults functioning in a simple hierarchy, it boggles the mind what she'd have thought of Our Mrs Reynolds which, to be fair, really does have a few rather objectionable elements from a feminist standpoint. To say nothing of what she'd think of Heart of Gold, given that she hates the very concept of Companions, let alone regular old prostitutes.

Date: 2008-07-02 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oozaru-angel.livejournal.com
Here all this time I thought that bottom =/= submissive. Some bottoms might be submissive, but that doesn't mean that all bottoms are submissive. This just sort of shows exactly how much Hamilton understands relationships.

You know, this reminds me of an expression we have in the anime yaoi fandom: "He tops from the bottom". It's when someone bottoms but is nevertheless the dominant member of the relationship. About 75% of the time that's the case, even if sometimes it's "sneaky dominance" where the person topping is in total denial over this. From what I understand whether you bottom or top in the bedroom really has no effect on your submissiveness. It's just whether or not you enjoy being pounded into or doing the pounding (excuse me for being crude). I mean, obviously in BDSM it might be different but I don't know enough about that to make any conclusions.

That's just one yaoi fangirls input into a subject that seriously annoys her.

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