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Soo...

They escape. Triscuit steals a horse for the DLI to ride, because ... he just does. DLI is a good rider and she's riding a mare that's almost as fast as Pilgrim. Of course. She and Triscuit talk for a long time and we get her sob story.

For her part, Lillith explained that she was the daughter of one of the tax collectors of the outer reaches of Tammerland, and that it was in that way her father, Agamedes of the House of Alvin, had known the king. She was a school teacher, as her late mother had been, and enjoyed her time with the children, especially the younger ones. Her brother, Chauncey, had been a lieutenant in the Royal guard. Their home had been burned to the ground by the terrible creatures with wings, and when she had seen the bodies of her father and brother she had panicked, gathering up all her money and setting out on her horse for the north, just as so many others had done. The innkeeper had stolen all of her money and sold her horse the first day.


She then cries in Triscuit's arms. "At the end of her tale, she broke into tears,and Tristan held her for a long time in the moonlight, knowing that despite how much she attracted him, they would have to part company on the day after tomorrow..."

This, of course, will not happen.

But, back to her sob story. School teacher? That doesn't seem right at all. I don't think they would even have schools. (I mean they don't even have a culture or a religion. XD) Besides she's a minor noble. She should have been married with sprogs of her own. Not running around with kids of various ages. Also unlikely that her mother would have been a teacher or know how to read. They're supposed to sit around and embroider or things like that. Or have kids. Not teach, unless they were poor. BUT since she likes kids, obviously this makes her sympathtic and a good potential mommy/queen.

I bet she has endowed blood too.

Get ready to gag.

Buckets at hand?

"Despite the short time in which he had known Lillith, he already knew in his heart that he would miss her. She was beautiful, intelligent, and kind, and she had a rare sort of quiet bravery."

I shall wait for you to finish before moving on.

It gets... worse? They haven't told her who they are. Instead they've said that they're a black smith and apprentice. And so Triscuit is amazed that he likes her for himself and not because he's a prince. (I wouldn't like him either way) She gives him a kiss on the cheek and he tries to sort out his feelings for her.

Triscuit: Lust? Lusty lust? Just fucking lusty? I should just do her already...

Blah, blah, They travel.

Earwig gives her money to go off by herself because she can't come with them to the Not Invisible invisible wood the next day. That night Triscuit kisses her. They go off swimming naked in a pool of water. And then... then.... we get this:

"I want you to be my first," she said, lowering her eyes as if in shame. With her face still lowered, she said, "You are handsome and strong, and I know in my heart that you will not hurt me. Please be my first, Tristan, and give me something to remember you by always."


But it doesn't matter. Lillith is really Natasha. Remember her? Oh Wait! Irony! Lillith! It's like Lilith! Newcomb is being CLEVER! Everyone laugh!

She rapes him because she wants his baby. But before he climaxes Earwig strangles her with magic and he kills her.

Triscuit is sad because he thought she was going to be the One.

I'm going to go over here and gag.

Date: 2007-12-18 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delphinapterus.livejournal.com
Ugh a blacksmith and apprentice could Newcomb have come up with something stupider and less believable for Triscuit and aged-wiz to pose as?

Date: 2007-12-18 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Man and his sex slave boy?

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Date: 2007-12-18 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
What? Why? Oh, my brain.

How are you managing to survive this book? Its level of stupidity may be fatal in sufficient doses.

Date: 2007-12-18 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Lots of good books around me.

Date: 2007-12-18 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christinaathena.livejournal.com
Noblewomen were quite literate in many cultures. In ancient Japan, the ability to write poetry was an essential skill for any noble, male or female, and a crucial part of the courtship process. There's a comedic character in the The Tale of Genji, one of whose foibles is her complete inability to write a decent poem, combined with her belief that her poetry is actually good. *G*

But it doesn't matter. Lillith is really Natasha. Remember her? Oh Wait! Irony! Lillith! It's like Lilith! Newcomb is being CLEVER! Everyone laugh!

She rapes him because she wants his baby. But before he climaxes Earwig strangles her with magic and he kills her.

Triscuit is sad because he thought she was going to be the One.


*Gasp* That's actually a surprise! A very effed up surprised, but a surprise none the less.

So, he's sad because she's not The One, but apparently not freaked out about having someone being KILLED IN COITUS?

Date: 2007-12-18 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Noblewomen were quite literate in many cultures. In ancient Japan, the ability to write poetry was an essential skill for any noble, male or female, and a crucial part of the courtship process. There's a comedic character in the The Tale of Genji, one of whose foibles is her complete inability to write a decent poem, combined with her belief that her poetry is actually good. *G*

This is true, but not in the society we seem to have here.

*Gasp* That's actually a surprise! A very effed up surprised, but a surprise none the less.


Yes. I was surprised.

Date: 2007-12-19 06:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
Noblewomen were quite literate in many cultures. In ancient Japan, the ability to write poetry was an essential skill for any noble, male or female, and a crucial part of the courtship process. There's a comedic character in the The Tale of Genji, one of whose foibles is her complete inability to write a decent poem, combined with her belief that her poetry is actually good. *G*

That's pretty awesome. I like the idea of male and female nobles creating love poetry as part of courtship. I'm going to have to use that somewhere... :D

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Date: 2007-12-18 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelittlebudgie.livejournal.com
"But before he climaxes Earwig strangles her with magic and he kills her."

But... I thought they couldn't kill the sorceresses without superevilbad things happening. Or was Natasha/Lilith not a sorceress? Honestly, I can't even be arsed to look.

Dear Eru, even Eragon didn't induce this level of apathy for the characters in me.

Date: 2007-12-18 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
But... I thought they couldn't kill the sorceresses without superevilbad things happening. Or was Natasha/Lilith not a sorceress? Honestly, I can't even be arsed to look.

Were you expecting continuity over convince? Sorry. You're WRONG!

Date: 2007-12-18 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gundamkiwi.livejournal.com
Triscuit: Lust? Lusty lust? Just fucking lusty? I should just do her already...

If the novel had dialogue like that, I might actually be interested in reading it. XD

Also, even though I thought Lillith was a suspicious name for a Love Interest (given the absolute lack of subtlety in every other aspect of this story so far), I was still surprised when she turned out to be ZOMG EVIL. Not very surprised, but surprised enough to go, "Huh. Didn't expect that."

D00d. Earwig is totally jealously guarding his fledgling love-slave uke True Love from T3h EBIL WOMYNZ OH NOES! D: D: D:

(And that's kinda cute, actually. XD)

Date: 2007-12-18 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
D00d. Earwig is totally jealously guarding his fledgling love-slave uke True Love from T3h EBIL WOMYNZ OH NOES! D: D: D:

(And that's kinda cute, actually. XD)


*giggles*

Not very surprised, but surprised enough to go, "Huh. Didn't expect that."

I was surprised too. Just sort of... well, how about that.

Date: 2007-12-18 07:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
“She rapes him because she wants his baby. But before he climaxes Earwig strangles her with magic and he kills her.”

Wait, that really happened? I thought you made that up. You know, like one of your jokes.

“She was a school teacher, as her late mother had been”

I’m glad I’m not the only one who found this odd.

"Man and his sex slave boy?"

I really hope someone writes a fanfic about that.

-NK

Date: 2007-12-18 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Wait, that really happened? I thought you made that up. You know, like one of your jokes

Yes. It really happened.

Date: 2007-12-18 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wariena.livejournal.com
*LAUGHS* ... *wince*

What are the odds that Triscuit will be in any way, shape or form traumatised by his rape for more than three pages?

Date: 2007-12-18 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
He wasn't traumatized at all. Not even for a paragraph.

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Date: 2007-12-18 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-norseman.livejournal.com
His mother was raped, tortured and murdered. Is he angsting about that at all?

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Date: 2007-12-18 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
...So, I was right and wrong. The DLI WAS Natasha. On the other hand, she wasn't really the Designated Love Interest.

On one hand, I really MISS Natasha. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN IT! On the other hand... WHEE! An actual wonderful completely unexpected plot twist! :DDDDDDDDDDDDD ...Unfortunately, the REAL Love Interest will be just as cliched. *sigh* No hope that the Love Interest will be male, is there?

I'm also going over and gagging. Blecch. Jeez, killing off the title character and one of the main villains of the book halfway through? Well, this IS the man who had the main villain of the second book accidentally kill himself. *groans*

Date: 2007-12-18 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
Maybe she'll come back as a zombie.

Hey, it makes as much sense as anything else.

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Date: 2007-12-18 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indescane.livejournal.com
I cheered when it was announced that DLI was Natasha. Cheered. Fucking cheered.

Mr. Newcomb, if someone reading a summary of your book cheers at discovering that a Designated Love Interest is actually an evil villainess and not the heartthrob of your protagonist, you're doing it wrong.

Jesus, I hate Tristan.

Date: 2007-12-18 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
): I was far unhappier that Natasha died than Lillith going poof. There's something wrong when the VILLAIN dying causes more sadness in the reader than the DLI going poof....

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Date: 2007-12-18 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] last-servant.livejournal.com
This might have been cool, had Triscuit not been such an unlikeable character. And the continuity error was MASSIVE! Spacetime rips, anyone?

Maybe Newcomb has a suffocation kink?

Date: 2007-12-18 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
This might have been cool, had Triscuit not been such an unlikeable character. And the continuity error was MASSIVE! Spacetime rips, anyone?

Bah! Continuity is secondary to coolness.

Date: 2007-12-18 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gjohnsonkoehn.livejournal.com
Well, since there's no religion there'd be no churches, so they wouldn't be around to educate the nobles. And the elites, the wizards, are clearly suffering the effects of a group lobotomy, so no help there. I suppose having random noblewomen being teachers makes as much sense as anything.

Though I'm still curious as to just who would actually be going to this school...

Also? Chauncey! *snickers*

Date: 2007-12-18 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Stop appling earth logic.

Though I'm still curious as to just who would actually be going to this school...


Random kids?

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Date: 2007-12-18 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hungryblackmage.livejournal.com
BAHAHAHAHAHA. Priceless.

You ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to DLIs in this book. Just wait until near the 3/4 mark in the story; it spirals into new heights of stupidity.

Date: 2007-12-18 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Sadly. I believe you.

Date: 2007-12-18 07:42 pm (UTC)
albijuli: (PUKE KITTENS)
From: [personal profile] albijuli
*runs away screaming*

Earwig- in your base choking your whores! Or something.

*resumes running*

Date: 2007-12-18 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Come back! Come back! It'll only get worse from here!

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XD

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Date: 2007-12-18 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com
Honestly? I'm just relieved that the simpering DLI isn't called Lillith. That's all the emotion I can muster.

Date: 2007-12-19 01:53 am (UTC)

It took me awhile to remember who she was

Date: 2007-12-19 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
It's really sad when the only believable human flaw (I don't count stupidity because it's all unintentional and everyone in this story suffers from it...) is that the hero has trouble discerning who his true love should be and mistakes a potential one-night stand for it. Well, okay, so that was sort of unintentional by the author (since Natasha used trickery *snorts*) but it's much more intentional than the stupidity.

And really... killing her before he climaxes? Ummm... yeah. That just keeps her from having a baby. SMART WIZARDS would have stopped her before she even began raping him. Also, I don't think it counts as rape if the guy is only sad for a little bit and not about the rape. I'm sorry but there should be some sort of trauma there. Or ANY sort of lasting impression. If he can shrug it off like that...

Then again, I'm no expert on rape. :\

Re: It took me awhile to remember who she was

Date: 2007-12-19 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christinaathena.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm not sure you can really call it "rape" when, apparently, Oedipus Triscuit was quite willing.

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