My spirit is strangled by the stupidity.
Aug. 26th, 2007 10:02 pmSo, we've all danced the dance of anger. Mine involved throwing the book around and then dying horribly in our Star Wars Saga Edition test run. I must say, that was much more fun. There's something very satisfying about role-playing, even when there's a two year old stealing your miniatures and almost breaking your roommate's chair.
Cole has danced his dance of anger, and now he goes to carve out his anger dance on the totem. Unfortunately he doesn't know how to carve: I'm sorry and I've learned how to forgive. But then again it's an abstract concept. Abstract concepts are, by their very nature, hard to put into concrete form. That is why they're abstract. I imagine that there is some sort of symbolic way of doing it, but then it would have to be extremely personal for each person and not necessarily universal.
When Edwin shows up next, Cole tells him that he danced the dance of anger. He tells Edwin that "Being angry is giving someone else control of my feelings so they own me. Forgiving gives me control again." And that is the biggest cock and bull I've ever heard or read. Being angry has nothing to do with giving someone control of your feelings. At least, not in the way that Cole is talking about it. You can get angry by someone setting you off. But that's not giving them control of your feelings. It's a reaction. Although, now I have this image of Peter with Cole on a leash. Hee. He then goes on to say that he has to help Peter and that before that he can't heal or carve in the missing bit in the totem pole. Because we all know that finishing the totem is the most important thing he has to do. Edwin tells him that he needs to help Peter or else it will eat at him. Cole wants to know what if he can't help Peter. Edwin says that he needs to find someone he can help then. And this is why Garvey and Edwin have helped Cole. OOoOOooo... MYSTERIOUS PAST!!
Summer passes. Cole carves more. He dances the dance of the storm. September comes, he see the Salmon, he dances the dance of the Salmon. He sees the Spirit Bear every few days. It turns to winter. He spends a lot of time in his little hut. He's alone. Very alone. So very alone. He has no one to speak to. He's cold and lonely. He wonders about things. Or so we're told. We don't see him do anything.
I rather like this line here, "With his activities strictly limited by winter's harsh winds and bitter cold, Cole noticed his body falling into new natural rhythms. He found himself moving at a deliberate place, without rushing. He slept when he was tired and ate only when he was hungry." Mostly, my question is: What does winter have to do with that? I mean, it seems pretty normal to me. You sleep when you're tired and eat when you're hungry. Do normal people eat when they're tired and sleep when they're hungry? I'm not sure what the point of these sentences are.
Christmas comes. He makes himself a little tree, being considerate enough to cut one that would probably die anyway. Isn't it nice? He's become a naturalist!
We learn, after Christmas, that Peter isn't doing any good. He's depressed and not getting out of bed and is under heavy medication. Speaking from personal experience, a lot of times when I'm under heavy meds, I have a hard time getting out of bed too. Cole worries about Peter.
Edwin comes back and tells Cole that Peter tried to commit suicide. Why?
"If someone is treated as if his lief is worthless, he begins to believe it."
"But his life isn't worthless," Cole protested.
Edwin stood, and with one motion opened the door and flung the last of his hot chocolate outside.
"I never told him he was worthless," Cole argued.
"Smashing his head on a sidewalk is a funny way of telling Peter he's valuable. "
"That was a mistake," Cole pleaded.
I'm sure you have your own commentary to put here. Edwin leaves, Cole crying out that he wants to help, and what can he do to help. Edwin gets in the boat and Cole cries out that he knows how to help Peter. His idea? Bring Peter to the island.
No. Seriously.
As Cole watched the boat disappear into the rain, picked up a strand of kelp off the shore and gave it a hard fling. Maybe Edwin was right and nothing could help Peter. But maybe if Peter came to the island, he would see how much things could change. Peter was probably terrified; that was why he needed this place. He could visit the pond. He could carry the ancestor rock and carve his own totem. He could dance, and maybe even see the Spirit Bear himself. More important, Cole could prove to Peter that this island held no monsters.
Let us look at this. Cole thinks that bringing Peter to the place where his attacker is, in the middle of the buttfuck of nowhere is going to be helpful, is going to make him less afraid of living. I would think that people were going to try and kill me, personally. Plus, what makes Cole even think that what worked for him, would work for Peter. After all, Cole was sent there to deal with his anger issues not his, I'm worthless because some bastard pounded my face into paste issues. But then again, I forget, this is the magical cure all. Soak in a pond. Roll a rock around. Carve a totem. See the "Spirit Bear". It's the new therapy. I bet Edwin and Garvey make a mint off of it. The Spirit Bear is really just some poor bear they dyed white and release occasionally on the island for Cole to see. Every thing's just a big sham and Edwin and Garvey are laughing it up somewhere.
Edwin comes back. He wants to know what Cole was blathering about. We leave on another cliff hanger! *GASP!*
Cole has danced his dance of anger, and now he goes to carve out his anger dance on the totem. Unfortunately he doesn't know how to carve: I'm sorry and I've learned how to forgive. But then again it's an abstract concept. Abstract concepts are, by their very nature, hard to put into concrete form. That is why they're abstract. I imagine that there is some sort of symbolic way of doing it, but then it would have to be extremely personal for each person and not necessarily universal.
When Edwin shows up next, Cole tells him that he danced the dance of anger. He tells Edwin that "Being angry is giving someone else control of my feelings so they own me. Forgiving gives me control again." And that is the biggest cock and bull I've ever heard or read. Being angry has nothing to do with giving someone control of your feelings. At least, not in the way that Cole is talking about it. You can get angry by someone setting you off. But that's not giving them control of your feelings. It's a reaction. Although, now I have this image of Peter with Cole on a leash. Hee. He then goes on to say that he has to help Peter and that before that he can't heal or carve in the missing bit in the totem pole. Because we all know that finishing the totem is the most important thing he has to do. Edwin tells him that he needs to help Peter or else it will eat at him. Cole wants to know what if he can't help Peter. Edwin says that he needs to find someone he can help then. And this is why Garvey and Edwin have helped Cole. OOoOOooo... MYSTERIOUS PAST!!
Summer passes. Cole carves more. He dances the dance of the storm. September comes, he see the Salmon, he dances the dance of the Salmon. He sees the Spirit Bear every few days. It turns to winter. He spends a lot of time in his little hut. He's alone. Very alone. So very alone. He has no one to speak to. He's cold and lonely. He wonders about things. Or so we're told. We don't see him do anything.
I rather like this line here, "With his activities strictly limited by winter's harsh winds and bitter cold, Cole noticed his body falling into new natural rhythms. He found himself moving at a deliberate place, without rushing. He slept when he was tired and ate only when he was hungry." Mostly, my question is: What does winter have to do with that? I mean, it seems pretty normal to me. You sleep when you're tired and eat when you're hungry. Do normal people eat when they're tired and sleep when they're hungry? I'm not sure what the point of these sentences are.
Christmas comes. He makes himself a little tree, being considerate enough to cut one that would probably die anyway. Isn't it nice? He's become a naturalist!
We learn, after Christmas, that Peter isn't doing any good. He's depressed and not getting out of bed and is under heavy medication. Speaking from personal experience, a lot of times when I'm under heavy meds, I have a hard time getting out of bed too. Cole worries about Peter.
Edwin comes back and tells Cole that Peter tried to commit suicide. Why?
"If someone is treated as if his lief is worthless, he begins to believe it."
"But his life isn't worthless," Cole protested.
Edwin stood, and with one motion opened the door and flung the last of his hot chocolate outside.
"I never told him he was worthless," Cole argued.
"Smashing his head on a sidewalk is a funny way of telling Peter he's valuable. "
"That was a mistake," Cole pleaded.
I'm sure you have your own commentary to put here. Edwin leaves, Cole crying out that he wants to help, and what can he do to help. Edwin gets in the boat and Cole cries out that he knows how to help Peter. His idea? Bring Peter to the island.
No. Seriously.
As Cole watched the boat disappear into the rain, picked up a strand of kelp off the shore and gave it a hard fling. Maybe Edwin was right and nothing could help Peter. But maybe if Peter came to the island, he would see how much things could change. Peter was probably terrified; that was why he needed this place. He could visit the pond. He could carry the ancestor rock and carve his own totem. He could dance, and maybe even see the Spirit Bear himself. More important, Cole could prove to Peter that this island held no monsters.
Let us look at this. Cole thinks that bringing Peter to the place where his attacker is, in the middle of the buttfuck of nowhere is going to be helpful, is going to make him less afraid of living. I would think that people were going to try and kill me, personally. Plus, what makes Cole even think that what worked for him, would work for Peter. After all, Cole was sent there to deal with his anger issues not his, I'm worthless because some bastard pounded my face into paste issues. But then again, I forget, this is the magical cure all. Soak in a pond. Roll a rock around. Carve a totem. See the "Spirit Bear". It's the new therapy. I bet Edwin and Garvey make a mint off of it. The Spirit Bear is really just some poor bear they dyed white and release occasionally on the island for Cole to see. Every thing's just a big sham and Edwin and Garvey are laughing it up somewhere.
Edwin comes back. He wants to know what Cole was blathering about. We leave on another cliff hanger! *GASP!*
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Date: 2007-08-27 07:11 am (UTC)The poor thing! No wonder Peter needs to forgive him, imagine tricking poor Cole into doing such a horrible thing!That image, and the idea of Peter being taken out into the wilderness with a Magic Injun and a psycho... It makes me think I can hear a banjo can you hear a banjo?
A banjo or the piƱata method is my favoured ending to this.
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Date: 2007-08-27 07:29 am (UTC)I think what that bit about eating when he's hungry and sleeping when he's tired means that he wasn't on a set schedule. He didn't go to bed at a specific time and get up at a specific time, he didn't have set meal times, etc.
Though, I still don't see what winter has to do with it so much as, you know, NOT BEING IN CIVILIZATION
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Date: 2007-08-27 08:47 am (UTC)You sleep when its dark because, well, it's dark! You got no light to see by! What else are you going to do?
You eat when you're hungry, true enough, but... When you wake up you gotta have something to eat, at least if you're going to work. Then you'll be hungry again in four or five hours and you eat again. Finally a last meal before dark.
I'd go so far as to say that in the wilderness there's more of a strict schedule, that's enforced far more rigorously. Sure it may not care if you do something an hour sooner or later, but you got a schedule, and nature is forcing you to stick to it.
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Date: 2007-08-27 05:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-27 07:17 pm (UTC)BTW that anonymous post was mine.
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Date: 2007-08-27 05:19 pm (UTC)Come to the Dark Side young Skywalker and touch your Spirit Bear.
>.>
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Date: 2007-08-27 07:36 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2007-08-27 12:05 pm (UTC)If I was Peter I'd club the first person to suggest that wit a crutch, or the bedside-lamp. Good grief. Like he hasn't got enough problems, he doesn't need to be on the same plot of ground with the guy who tried to kill him, but who's changed now, honest, come see the lovely totem I carved, forgiving you for controlling my emotions and making me try to dye the street with your blood.
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Date: 2007-08-27 05:35 pm (UTC)If I was Peter I'd club the first person to suggest that wit a crutch, or the bedside-lamp. Good grief. Like he hasn't got enough problems, he doesn't need to be on the same plot of ground with the guy who tried to kill him, but who's changed now, honest, come see the lovely totem I carved, forgiving you for controlling my emotions and making me try to dye the street with your blood.
Yup, and I'm BATMAN!!
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Date: 2007-08-27 01:31 pm (UTC)...
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So... was Cole eating mushrooms at any point in that chapter? Or lichen? There are a few hallucinogenic lichens in the far North. Only explanation.
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Date: 2007-08-27 01:33 pm (UTC)"Hey, disturbed boy, wanna see my spirit bear? It'll make you better. Really."
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Date: 2007-08-27 05:36 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2007-08-27 04:43 pm (UTC)Anyway, on a very randon note, check this out, you might like it. It“s about our favorite person in the whole bookverse: http://community.livejournal.com/otherwhispers/763.html#cutid1
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Date: 2007-08-27 06:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-27 07:01 pm (UTC)And seriously...if Peter is heavily medicated and all that, how is he supposed to take care of himself on the island?
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Date: 2007-08-28 07:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-27 07:05 pm (UTC)But jeez... Thank you for sporking this junk. And Edwin has a point... but I'm sure that Cole will be OMG right. Gah. DX
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Date: 2007-08-28 07:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-27 07:43 pm (UTC)The Spirit Bear (warning will open up in Windows Media Player). Found it here
See! It's real! Yesh... sooooo real... reach out and touch the spirit bear! Heresh another Spirit Beer Go on! Touch it!
Quite frankly I think that only a lot of these spirit bears could explain a book this awful.
Meanwhile I am absolutely shocked by how you're talking! Obviously poor Peter will have a great time being all alone on an island with a guy who tried to kill him! Think how much fun they can have, think of the joys of lifting the ancestor rock in a wheelchair!
By the way apparently real native-americans much like the book and the usual suspects whinre about it.
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Date: 2007-08-27 09:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-29 06:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-27 11:23 pm (UTC)That's what my schoolteachers always told me when I was being bullied.
[T]hat is the biggest cock and bull I've ever heard[.]
That's exactly how I felt.
You can get angry by someone setting you off. But that's not giving them control of your feelings. It's a reaction.
"But a reaction is what they want, so you are giving control to them." Needless to say, I look at schoolteachers the way most people look at sex offenders.
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Date: 2007-08-28 07:45 am (UTC)"You're being an enabler. Don't let them do that."
They're trying to hit me! I didn't do anything but exist! And if I fight back, I get into trouble!
Gah.
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Date: 2007-08-28 04:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-28 09:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-28 11:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-29 06:36 am (UTC)(Actually, a lot of bullies are narcissists, not people with low self-esteem, but try telling that to certain New Age teachers...)
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Date: 2007-08-29 08:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-29 08:59 am (UTC)I think I know where this preconception comes from... it comes from an inability to accept that violence and domination displays are a natural part of human behaviour. Therefore it follows that if someone deliberately hurts others he has to be sick, or injured somehow.
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Date: 2007-08-28 09:04 pm (UTC)You know, the book makes so much more sense when I think of it that way...XD
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Date: 2007-08-28 09:21 pm (UTC)