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kippurbird) wrote2007-05-09 11:20 am
kippurbird) wrote2007-05-09 11:20 am
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Pao-Pao awards
The Pao-Pao awards.
So several people mentioned that I should do a poll for the worst of the worst in Eldest. Which I shall, because I'm lazy and don't particularly feel like working. But I'd like some nominations for:
Most Ironic Line
Most character growth in any direction
Most WTF moment
Most Deus Ex Machina moment
Most idiotic moment
Most Why God Why moment
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment.
Eragon's most idiotic moment
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon)
Other category nominations are also welcome.
So several people mentioned that I should do a poll for the worst of the worst in Eldest. Which I shall, because I'm lazy and don't particularly feel like working. But I'd like some nominations for:
Most Ironic Line
Most character growth in any direction
Most WTF moment
Most Deus Ex Machina moment
Most idiotic moment
Most Why God Why moment
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment.
Eragon's most idiotic moment
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon)
Other category nominations are also welcome.
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Most character growth in any direction.: What character growth?
Most WTF moment.: Eragon comparing Oromis' naked body to the other men's he had looked at in Carvahal.
Most Deus Ex Machina moment.: Eragon getting turned into an elf. That bleeds so much Deus Ex Mechina I think it needs a transfusion.
Most idiotic moment.: Eragon trying to "woo" Arya shortly after he got turned into an Elf, I...guess...but the whole book was pretty idiotic.
Most Why God Why moment.: Eragon's poetry.
Eragon's most idiotic moment.: Man, this is difficult because it seems that everything he does is idiotic! But if I could choose one, I think it would be his decision, and what more his REASON, to stop eating meat.
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon).: Nasuada. I was actually about to say Arya, but there's just no reason for Nasuada to exist. She's pointless and she's boring. There's absolutely nothing interesting about her character, so I don't know why we even needed to see from her point of view. I guess Paolini just wanted a female character's perspective. Or something.
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Most WTF moment - Eragon using the super-rare, super-speshul potion as a reflective surface to scry through. You couldn't ask someone for a mirror? Or, hell, polish a piece of armour?
Most Deus Ex Machina moment - The dragon tattoo turning Eragon into an elf.
Most idiotic moment - Eragon not walking over to meet Nasuada's dad, who promptly gets killed because Eragon isn't around, being instead some distance away waiting stupidly.
Most Why God Why moment - Eragon lusting after, oops, I mean, Eragon 'studying' the naked hairless elf.
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment. - Still the naked hairless elf scene. I mean, what kind of teenage boy writes about carefully examining a naked man while they're bathing together?
Eragon's most idiotic moment - Trying to trade the possibly evil rock he can't identify, which he found in the terrifying Spine, for some meat.
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon) - Quimby's widow. Just because I want to see Roran reveal his true sociopathy by beating a defenceless woman to death with his hammer.
I'll put off my homework...
Most character growth in any direction: Cardboard can't grow, dude.
Most WTF moment: Diving up.
Most Deus Ex Machina moment: ? I'm going to admit a tad of n00bishness, and say I don't know what this means. *shamed*
Most idiotic moment: The first 29405801745 pages of the first book and 109239081734 of the second.
Most Why God Why moment: Any of Pao Pao's poems
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment. Hairless groin scene. Hands down.
Eragon's most idiotic moment:Let me NOT tell my uncle about my dragon!
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon): Certainly not Galby. How about...I forget. They're all the same anyways
Re: I'll put off my homework...
Re: I'll put off my homework...
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Most Ironic Line
Another vote for the "perfection" line.
Most WTF moment
The Elf Orgy.
Most Deus Ex Machina moment
Another vote for "Eragon turns into an elf."
Most idiotic moment
"'Aye,' he said, and chopped off his head."
Most Why God Why moment
...You know. The Direct Quote. -_-
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment.
Naked Half-Cripple, description of. Wow, just wow. Follow-up would be the previous nomination
Eragon's most idiotic moment
Eh...raincheck on this one
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon)
...There goes my nomination. But seriously, Rowan needs to kick the bucket. Or Katrina. Or how about just a giant "Rocks Fall, All Supporting Characters Die"?
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Most Ironic Line: I would nominee the perfection one, but we can’t have poll of just one line, can we? So I say this one: "What a tragedy that so many must die to thwart a single madman." (page 654)
Most character growth in any direction: Saphira. First I thought she was kind of cool, then she seemed an immature teenager, then she seemed (or was supposed to) wiser than her years, then she was a bitch, then back to immature, then- you get the point.
Most WTF moment: Eragon picking a boy part from the floor in the first chapter. A tooth, I think. Srsly, what was that?
Most Deus Ex Machina moment: The bit from the first book where Murtagh says they can’t do something and Eragon is like “we have too” and so they do it. I think I can understand what Paolini was going at, but that’s just plain stupid.
Most idiotic moment: That’s a hard one. The whole last battle. From both books.
Most Why God Why moment: Sloan’s betrayal and that elf acknowledging Eragon after the creep break his arm. I had hope for those two. Ç_Ç
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment: Again, I would say the whole naked thing, but everybody’s nominating that. So I pick all the religion bashing. I still can’t believe he had the nerve to actually publish it…
Eragon's most idiotic moment: The last reflection about his real father. Yuck.
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon): Elva? She’s not doing anything. But Nasuada and Rouran bother the hell out of me too.
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Most character growth in any direction: I've seen people suggest Saphira, Murtagh, and Roran. But hrmm... I choose... Galbatorix. Everything they do just proves how awesome Galby is! (Well, except for that suck-ass assassin.) Maybe Arya, who's becoming even more of a bitch and holding her ground vs. Eragon's lust but she was happy to see Eragon appear at the battle... eh. ;P
Most WTF moment: The little stud-fist things that those dwarves had. Actually, just about any dwarf moment. They need love and they had some weird-ass shit. Either that or that dumb raven. In this book, it's so hard to separate the WTF from the idiotic. They kind of blur together. I guess that whirlpool would count too. And so would anything involving magic in these books. ;P
Most Deus Ex Machina moment: I'd vote for the 'turned into an elf' bit but everyone is voting for that. I'd say Eragon writing an 'epic' poem and then reading it in the language that forces you to tell the truth. And then how they all loved it. >_<;
Most idiotic moment: Arya being captured while trying to transport that damn egg. She could teleport it. I think someone more powerful could have teleported it to a specific location. Also the 'rich man' who was down on his luck who DIDN'T turn Roran in for the reward money! And now that I'm thinking about it, anything involving Nasuada. That whole thing with the miner-thief was absolutely horrible and the lace-making fiasco was just... I wanted to like Nasuada. I really did! ;P
Most Why God Why moment: When Arya killed that bird. And when Sloan went to the Ra'zac. Oh! Elva's existence. And that damned scene involving the transformation into an elf...
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment: The hairless groin thing is high on the list but I think my biggest nominee is actually that whole thing about Paolini MENTIONING how Arya was NOT raped! If he had simply ignored the possibility entirely, not bringing it up at all, or he let it happen... I could accept it. But from the torture scene to her detailed account of the events, it was just glaringly mind-boggling. Paolini wanted angst points but he didn't want to actually soil his self-insert's future beloved in any way. Maybe he was also trying to prove how bad-ass she was but he never explained how she could do magic, while being deprived of magic, so he fails.
I think Paolini was actually bothered by the potential for rape, which was why he refused to let it happen. But if that was so, then he shouldn't have brought it up! Sure, some of the fan authors would've speculated and written about it. But what does he care about them? I don't think he does, so he really shouldn't have worried about what other people may or may not have assumed. Or else, he could have made it so that Galby was TOO NOBLE to let his captives be raped. But no, he wanted Galby to be evil, so of course he'd allow rape. ;P
I have said it before in my LJ and I'll say it again here: every rapist is a villain but not every villain is a rapist. And certainly that holds true for condoning it. It's possible his guards could have gone against his wishes but there are precautions he could've taken. It's not an unavoidable possibility if Galby didn't want it to take place.
I don't necessarily want rape in fiction to reflect that of reality all the time. I don't even mind the use of pretend rape during a sex scene or 'last minute save from rape' or even 'it isn't written as pretend but the woman clearly isn't upset with the situation, as it is written' erotica. My problem comes from when people try meshing 'that feels so good' with 'she couldn't escape the pain or horror' situation. Especially where it doesn't make any sense. I have my guilty pleasures but that kind of confusion isn't one of them. And I really hate it when people use it, even just mentioning it, to force-feed us ill-gotten sympathy for a character that may or may not deserve our sympathy. ;P
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Most character growth in any direction: Murtagh
Most WTF moment: When the Ra'zac break into Horst's house and capture Katrina INSTEAD of Roran, the guy they've been
Most Deus Ex Machina moment: The Blood oath ceremony where Eragon gets transformed into an elf. Hands down
Most idiotic moment: When Eragon writes a fourteen page poem in a language he's been studying seriously (not just learning random vocab) for two or three months
Most Why God Why moment: When Eragon becomes a vegetarian
I can't believe Paolini actually did, said, wrote that moment: the whole "Eragon I am your brother and Morzan was our father" moment. This plunges the depths of literary plagiarism
Eragon's most idiotic moment: When he decides that the Council of Elders is EVIL and swears fealty to Nasuada instead
Character that should just DIE (besides Eragon): All of the Varden should die
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"So, Murtagh, you're fleeing the city at breakneck speed? And someone recognised you, you say? Someone who's more than likely to blab to the Empire the whereabouts of you, a wanted man? Never fear, I have a great plan! Let's go to sleep in our camp that's in clear view of the city! Nighty night!"
...a few hours later...
"We're surrounded by Urgals, eh? Didn't see that coming."
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Most Idiotic Moment: Any moment of MurtaghEragon UST that didn't turn into wild boysex. Oh, wait. That was all of them.
...dammit, and I can't even find any good fanfic for it either...