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Chapters Thunder Roar and Lightning crackle, Revelation at Yazuac

Summary

Thunder Roar... begins rather harmlessly. Brom and Eragon are traveling down towards the plains. They make it down the mountains in less than one day. Not very formidable mountains, I suppose then. And I just realized something... the SNOW has vanished. Two chapters ago they were walking around tracking things in the snow, and now there is no snow. There wasn't any in Therisnford nor was there any up in the mountains where Eragon and Brom camped, and there really should have been. It's as if Paolini completely forgot that plot point, or it no longer became important, so it stopped existing. There should have been some mention of the snow as they traveled, and the bitter cold from the weather. And perhaps the fact that Eragon didn't have any winter clothes on. But... there isn't. It's as if the snow just stopped existing. It no longer was needed for the story, so it just vanished.

Apparently Brom and Eragon don't take the road out of the Valley, since they have trouble getting the horses down the path. I say this because there is no way that the trader's wagons would be able to get down such a trail that vanished and reappeared. It doesn't seem reasonable that the Ra'zac would take such a trail if they were looking for speed, they would have gone on the main road. And... another realization. The Ra'zac bought horses. There was no way of Brom knowing which horses they took and they left from town and there would be hundreds of horse prints around so there would be no way of anyone tracking them. It would be physically impossible to pick out which horse prints were the Ra'zac's. They had lost the trail.

Unless Brom has psychic powers or knows where the Ra'zac are going because he's in league with them, there'd be no way for him to track them. The Ra'zac work for Galby, and Brom is Galby. Thus another piece of proof is found.

Galbrom "finds" the Ra'zac's tracks heading out into the plains. The plains are very wind swept and at when they make camp, Eragon is unable to make a fire. Then this happens:

"Brom knelt by the brush and looked at it critically. He rearranged a couple of branches, then struck the tinderbox, sending a cascade of sparks onto the plants. There was smoke, but nothing else. Brom scowled and tried again, but his luck was no better than Eragon's. "Brisinger!" he swore angrily, striking the flint again. Flames suddenly appeared, and he stepped back with a pleased expression." (125)

I call this paragraph out for the italicized parts. This is important. Brom swore. He cursed, just like someone shouting damn.

They then enter a storm front that is so strong that it tosses Saphira around. If the storm is that strong, it should be tossing Eragon and Brom around, but somehow they stay grounded. Eragon is even able to perform tumbling acts to help Saphira close her wings. Apparently in the Eragonverse the heavier you are the easier it is for you to get blown away. Makes me wonder where all the flying houses are.

But they get to Yazuac all right. Yazuac however, is not all right. Urgals had killed the entire population of the village. Brom and Eragon get attacked by urgals. They chase Eragon into an alley and something miraculous happens. Power comes to him. And then,

"He stood tall and straight, all fear gone. He raised his bow smoothly. ... the energy inside of him burned at an unbearable level. He had to release it, or it would consume him. A word suddenly leapt unbidden to his lips. He shot, yelling, "Brisinger"

The arrow hissed through the air, glowing with a crackling blue light..." (133)

Now, then, if we look back, the word, "Brisinger" was used as a curse by Brom. There was no indication that it had any meaning beyond maybe "fuck" or "shit" yet for some reason Eragon feels compelled to shout this to release the power with in him. There is no reason why this word would even be in his mind in connection to power or magic or anything like that. If Brom had mentioned the word in regards to magical things, then the fact that this word came to him would be reasonable. But there's no reason for that word to make that sort of connection. Brom said it once and it was never commented on. Eragon never even thought to himself, "What an odd word" he just forgot or never even noticed it's existence. (Though we must assume that since the book is from Eragon's perspective and he did recognize the word being spoken that he did notice its existence.) There is no reason why Eragon should have said that word.

Yet he does.

And magic happens.

Who would have thought that Eragon could do magic?

Date: 2007-01-29 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] behyper.livejournal.com
Paolini sucks at plot points and continuity. That's all I have to say.

*bows and leaves*

Date: 2007-01-29 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Paolini sucks in general.

Date: 2007-01-29 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indescane.livejournal.com
[insert juvenile comment about his daddy owning the publishing company.]
[insert juvenile comment, hinting at jealousy, about copyright infringement.]
[insert comment displaying outright jealousy at popularity of Eragon.]
[insert half-assed apology and expletive.]

Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
The more you mention it, the more I realize how interesting it is to have the MAIN VILLAIN as the hero's 'wise old mentor'. I mean, I remember one of the Slayers' novels had a key villain joining the party (and using magical clones of another guy as the decoy), so that she could stop them or halt their progress or get something they were also after. It's been awhile since I read it so I forget what exactly the case was. I mean, I realize you're joking but it's actually an idea with a surprising amount of merit.

It seriously makes me want to write the plot-bunny I had awhile back, while commenting in one of Limyaael's rants, of a typical gullible hero running around with a lecherous old man who was in fact getting him to do all kinds of evil things to meet his own, nefarious ends. (And hit on the hero constantly, much to this particular hero's discomfort.) It's funny, to me anyway, as it certainly puts a nice twist on the old cliche.

Also, you know what I've realized? The movie for Eragon was absolutely terrible. It left out a lot and still had some really dumb ideas that I just couldn't believe were up on the screen. But you know what's so impressively sad? The more you comment on how terrible the book is, the more I realize that the BOOK is WORSE than the movie! They apparently did a surprisingly decent job on the movie, given the crap that was in the actual book. I'm frankly stunned.

I watched the movie without reading first (other than having skimmed some pages months before and never garnering enough interest to actually read the thing) and I was disgusted. But you know what? They actually had Eragon asking some questions in it. Like the scene about making the fire? The movie had Eragon notice and then ask what Brom did. Then Brom explained how magic worked to him and he used it later in the fight (though at the time he didn't know about the drawbacks of magic, because Brom hadn't mentioned it. Brom was not teaching him, he was simply pointing out the basics.) It was still kind of a crappy set of scenes but it made more sense than this junk here.

And for the record, I had to sit through that movie twice... but at least it was free both times. (One was pre-screening, the other time was two free, general-purpose tickets that a friend and I were given.)

Re: Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
The mentor figure as villain is an interesting idea. Now that i think about it, I'm doing something similar in my own novel series.

I'm not sure if I want to see the movie, but it sounds like they did that to condense some scenes in the book.

And I'm sorry you had to see the movie twice.

Re: Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 08:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
I would say rent it sometime or better yet, catch it on TV, whenever it's out on DVD and on the air. It's funny though. The things they left out weren't important and what I felt they had left out which WERE important had been left out by Paolini to begin with! And surprisingly enough, the movie doesn't seem to make Sloan out to be so bad. (I mean, I felt sympathy for him.) But clearly the movie script writers couldn't figure out how to fix every curve-ball Paolini's hackwork threw at them. Such as Saphira very suddenly growing up (faster than in the books) and some other things.

But yeah, I'm sorry I saw it twice too. The first time I simply had some hope it might be halfway decent, having not read the book. The second time I got talked into it because my friend hadn't seen it yet. I warned her but I didn't refuse to see it with her because she really wanted me to come. (Neither of the people that I saw it with liked it. But the first audience I saw it with were either huge fans or all high because they kept laughing at crap that wasn't even truly funny. It wasn't them laughing at the horribleness either; it was moments that were meant to be funny but which didn't come off very well. Many of them clapped at the end.) It's also a fairly short movie, I might add.

But uh... yeah.
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I would say rent it sometime or better yet, catch it on TV, whenever it's out on DVD and on the air. It's funny though. The things they left out weren't important and what I felt they had left out which WERE important had been left out by Paolini to begin with! And surprisingly enough, the movie doesn't seem to make Sloan out to be so bad. (I mean, I felt sympathy for him.) But clearly the movie script writers couldn't figure out how to fix every curve-ball Paolini's hackwork threw at them. Such as Saphira very suddenly growing up (faster than in the books) and some other things.

But yeah, I'm sorry I saw it twice too. The first time I simply had some hope it might be halfway decent, having not read the book. The second time I got talked into it because my friend hadn't seen it yet. I warned her but I didn't refuse to see it with her because she really wanted me to come. (Neither of the people that I saw it with liked it. But the first audience I saw it with were either huge fans or all high because they kept laughing at crap that wasn't even truly funny. It wasn't them laughing at the horribleness either; it was moments that were meant to be funny but which didn't come off very well. Many of them clapped at the end.) It's also a fairly short movie, I might add.

But uh... yeah. <_< >_> *quiets now and goes to sleep* z_z

Re: Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghostgecko.livejournal.com
In Cinefex the computer artists specifically said they gave Saphira a magical instant growth spurt to compress time a bit.

Re: Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
Oh, I figure as much. But the thing is, I doubt they would have gone with such a weird and unnatural situation if Paolini hadn't suggested a quicker growth to begin with. I mean, I could be wrong. Just my thoughts on the matter. :)

Re: Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Well, we all know that Paolini failed at biology.

Re: Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 08:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indescane.livejournal.com
It seriously makes me want to write the plot-bunny I had awhile back, while commenting in one of Limyaael's rants, of a typical gullible hero running around with a lecherous old man who was in fact getting him to do all kinds of evil things to meet his own, nefarious ends. (And hit on the hero constantly, much to this particular hero's discomfort.) It's funny, to me anyway, as it certainly puts a nice twist on the old cliche.

That is brilliant. That is just...brilliant. Too hilariously brilliant for words.

Re: Brom is Galby!

Date: 2007-01-29 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dove-cg.livejournal.com
Hee! Thanks. Sadly, once the hero starts to catch on, I'm not certain what should happen. (Hopefully more humor.)

Date: 2007-01-29 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the7bells.livejournal.com
Brisinger, this thing sucks.

As far as words go, that one sucks. As does the story.

Date: 2007-01-30 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
We're over a hundred pages in, and I still have no idea what th point of the story is.

Date: 2007-01-30 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com
Really? I thought it was obvious from the get go. The point is that Eragon is really cool.

Date: 2007-01-31 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com
Exactly! And that's the ultimate proof of how bad a writer Paolini is: his novel has the simplest "theme" imaginable, and he can't even get that accross right!

Date: 2007-09-24 08:34 pm (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Ravenclaw Leia Yoda)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
Behold my nitpicky tendencies coming out to play: it's 'enlightenment', and your icon spells it 'enligthenment'. Also, my hazy memories of Eragon tell me there's an L somewhere in the fire curse word, and no E's anywhere. 'Brislingr'?

(No, I haven't read Eragon more than once. Yes, I am that details-obsessed.)

*kippurbird to lazy to switch accounts*

Date: 2007-09-24 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saphiras-rider.livejournal.com
Yeah... yeah... I know. I spelled it wrong. Unfortunately I lost the icon and haven't been able to fix it.

And the spell is correct.

Re: *kippurbird to lazy to switch accounts*

Date: 2007-09-24 08:47 pm (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
*shrugs* Either my version of the book differed from yours or my memory's faulty. I don't feel like tracking down the book to figure out which.

Date: 2007-01-30 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the7bells.livejournal.com
How many are left?

As far as I can tell, the point is to be impressed with the speshulness of Eragon. DON'T QUESTION HIM. Bleh.

Date: 2007-01-30 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com
You know, I'm disappointed that it turned out to be a magic word. If it were a curse, I could go off about how swear words ought to be short, harsh-sounding, and to the point. Shit! Damn! Fuck! It feels good to say them when you're mad or in pain. Surrogate curses like "Crap" and "Frik" have a similar quality, as do fictional ones like "Frak" and "Da'rvit." "Brisinger?" Not so much.

Date: 2007-01-30 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Perhaps that's how Eragon knew it wasn't a curse?

Date: 2007-01-30 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gundamkiwi.livejournal.com
But that would indicate that Eragon has some sort of latent ability to logically think things through. We as an audience are given no such indication. Therefore, I call Plothole. =P

Date: 2007-01-30 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gundamkiwi.livejournal.com
Plot black hole, even? :D

Date: 2007-01-30 05:47 am (UTC)

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