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Personally, I find it amusing when someone states a bit of wisdom that they promptly ignore. In this case it's Robert Newcomb author of our latest book The Fifth Sorceress. In the beginning, of his book he has one of those little pieces of "history" a piece of a document that that's from the world we're about to venture into. In this case the document says:

To ignore the past is to solicit disrespect.
To ignore the present is to invite laziness.
To ignore the future is to beg disaster.
~Eutracian Proverb


Newcomb ignored the past by not paying attention to what makes a good fantasy story, he ignored the present by making it cliche, and he ignored the future because I'm taking it apart. >:D

We are given a map. It has some ominous things like "the Vale of Torment" and "the Ghetto of the Shunned" and the "Dark Lagoon". There's a perfectly square bit of grassy land called the Heart Square which seems to be utterly odd because it's in the middle of nowhere. Hopefully it'll be explained in the book.

Finally we delve into the prologue.

We begin on the ocean on a war galleon named Resolve. The galleon is listing horribly and it looks like she's taking on water. The rain is so bad that the lanterns aren't working so they switch to torches. The (one would hope) enclosed lanterns aren't working so they've switched to exposed torches. Yes. Exactly how would these torches stand a better chance, I'm not really sure. Then we get an order of information problem. Suddenly there is an old wizard.

"The old wizard in the rain-soaked gray robe was named Wigg"

No where in the previous paragraph was there mention of any man. It's like a sentence had been cut before this one. A better way to have introduced Wigg would be "Standing on the stern an old wizard, named Wigg, looked out over the Galleon, rain soaking his gray robes." Thus we KNOW there's a person there before we are introduced to him. Wigg, as Newcomb has written him, just pops out of nowhere. If anything, it would have been better if Wigg was the one doing the observation in the first paragraph. In my writing group, one of the people says, chapters should begin with a "Character in a setting with a problem." This is, I think, a sound piece of advice.

Wigg (who keeps on reminding me of an earwig) continues his ship contemplation(Which really ... I dunno much about ships but three masts are broken and laying about at different angles because apparently no one has cut them loose...) and we learn that the broken ship is towing a smaller ship.

The old one -Earwig- apparently is having the Galleon's crew discharge some sort of duty in I think in regards to prisoners. The captain of the guard is reluctant to do so and wonders if they've been sufficiently weakened. There's a POV shit here for a brief moment as we go into the captain's POV away from Earwig. Earwig is very worried about what he's going to do to the prisoners, but we don't know WHO they are. He doesn't think or say something like, "I know you're worried about the X but this is the only way" or "No longer will X amount of Z will bother us." We slowly learn that there are four of them and that they were ruthless and evil people and that they're Sorceresses of the Coven.

They're evil magic users so of course they use a pentacle as their sign. Because everyone knows that the pentacle is EVIL. (Unless you're Dan Brown. >.> ) Earwig starts to wonder if he'll have to control the men so they don't jump the four women. Apparently, so it's implied, that the women can make all horny. Personally I don't see how this is anything special. I mean if I was a sailor on a ship in the middle of butfucknowhere and there's a damn hot woman in front of me I'd be all aroused. But I digress.

The four women have been practically starved for 15 days and yet they are still exquisitely beautiful and shapely. Yup, curves in all the right places. Earwig feels sorry for the women -despite the fact that they are EVIL. Blah blah, the women are sexy despite being starved, Earwig starts to get horny, the leader of the women makes a Dire Proclamation. "Your Brothers all think you have won... tell me, Wizard, are you yourself so sure?" This shakes poor Earwig, because he obviously has no confidence in what he's doing.

And then the Government apparently makes a Stupid Mistake. These four women have caused so much damage that it'll take generations to heal, but instead of killing them they're EXILING THEM! And of course that means that they'll have time to lay in wait and do their evil plans and then come back because they are EVIL and won't just go, "Oh hay, I'm exiled, that means I can't go back, lah-didity dah." They are EVIL. They have killed Thousands of people (at least) they've caused untold damage and they're letting them LIVE so that they can come BACK later and take REVENGE!! Just KILL THEM ALREADY AND SAVE YOURSELF THE TROUBLE LATER!!! Wait... but then there wouldn't be a story. Right. Damn. My bad. Carry on. Don't mind my logic.

We then get another Dire Proclamation, "That oath will one day be your undoing".

And then, apparently the government has given them women food... which will make them stronger which means that they'll be able to come back. And the woman tells him that. Earwig is shaken by this obvious statement.

After the women are put on the smaller boat, the captain of the guard comes up and says, "We think you should have killed them. They were horrible and Evil." This is after the text says, "After what seemed an eternity to the young soldier, the wizard named Wigg finally took a deep breath..." We already KNOW that the wizard is named Wigg! You don't need to tell us again.

Then Earwig gives the guard a reverse "As you Know Bob" it's the "As you don't know Bob but now I'm free to tell you." Apparently the government weaken the women so that they could stand trial, but they decided that the women were so weak that execution "would be tantamount to murder" and they are forbidden to murder anyone. Because executing someone who is healthy is not murder. Yes. So instead they've weakened the women, dropped them on a boat with low supplies and left them off in the middle of the ocean where they'll face certain death.

But this is not murder.

Just because you don't pull the trigger doesn't mean it's not murder.

But I'm sure it comforts them at night.

Earwig does some more magic to insure that they'll be unable to return without dying (which is still not murder).

We have another Dire Proclamation: "I will live to see you dead. Someday you will pay. You all will pay, including any inferior male offspring you may spawn."

Here we have the first indications of the sexism that will surely follow in the book. We don't know why they think that men are inferior, They Just Are. It would be nice for Newcomb to give us a reason for them to think that because otherwise it feels similar to They're Just That Special. This is sloppy and lazy. If you're going to give such a significant ideology, there should be SOME hint as to why it exists. Even if you don't explain it all the way. There just should be some hint.

Finally we learn that GASP they are not the last of their kind, but one more of them exists secretly in hiding. GASP!! Could she be the one who causes all the Evil that will Trouble Our Hero!? I don't know! I must read to find out! /sarcasm.

So, eleven pages in, we've had three Dire Proclamations, one case of Curves In All The Right Places, one Case of Random Sexism and a case of You Know They're Evil Because They have A Traditionally Evil Symbol On Them.

This is going to be FUN! =D

Date: 2007-11-30 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] authoressarktos.livejournal.com
Wigg? Forget that, Toupée sounds better ;D

So, eleven pages in, we've had three Dire Proclamations, one case of Curves In All The Right Places, one Case of Random Sexism and a case of You Know They're Evil Because They have A Traditionally Evil Symbol On Them.

This is going to be FUN! =D


*evil grin*

Date: 2007-11-30 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I like Earwig better.

*mad cackling*

*coughs*

>.>

Date: 2007-11-30 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] berseker.livejournal.com
Heh, you made a cute typo There's a POV shit here for a brief moment. Unless, of course, you really hated the shift.

Anyway, torches? In the rain? LOLZ. I´m loving this book already.

Date: 2007-11-30 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guardians-song.livejournal.com
I'm trying to decide whether I want to internet-marry you or worship you as a goddess... god... god-thingy. :)

Methinks I'll worship you. *sacrifices disco-ball-like dragon and cardboard Dragon Rider to you*

Date: 2007-11-30 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dracorn-adagio.livejournal.com
So the Sorceresses' Great Evil Power of DOOM is to make guys want to have sex? Very impressive. I applaud their EVILNESS. It's a wonder those sailors survived.

Date: 2007-11-30 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelittlebudgie.livejournal.com
Wigg? Why do we need his political affiliation?

Magic power=making men want to have sex? Apparently this means I have all the qualifications of an evil Sorceress. Bwahahaha!

Ahem.

Anyway, I'm not very nautical, but three broken masts=BAD. Being three sheets to the wind is bad enough, but at least you can fix that.

Finally, that is the stupidest government ever. I would take over in a heartbeat.

Now I need to find this book so I can read along. :D Great to have a new sporking!

Date: 2007-11-30 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evewithanapple.livejournal.com
Dear Authors:

STOP USING PENTAGRAMS. It's a religious symbol, and it's offensive when you use it as a symbol of some fake magic race. ESPECIALLY when said race is evil. Can you imagine what would happen if you used a Star of David as a magic symbol of DOOM!!11!!? Yes, I thought so. Make up your own effing symbol.

Sincerely,

a pissed-off Wiccan

Date: 2007-11-30 11:05 pm (UTC)
prototypical: (Dumbledore's man)
From: [personal profile] prototypical
Kippur is our King?

Date: 2007-11-30 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gundamkiwi.livejournal.com
Hurrah! I love Kippur sporkings. Not only are they intensely entertaining and hilarious, they are also highly educational! :D

Can't wait to read more. This is going to be fun!

Date: 2007-11-30 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Hah. So I did. I should fix that. XD

Yes. Torches. In the rain. Instead of lanterns. The brilliance here is astonishing. Admittedly torches are more dramatic, but they're aren't practical.

Date: 2007-11-30 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Worship is good. I should start my own cult. XD

Date: 2007-11-30 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
So far that appears to be their power. I'm sure there is more to it than that, but yes, apparently it's making guys horny. Which really isn't very impressive.

Yes, it's a wonder they survived. Unless they were all gay. XD

Date: 2007-11-30 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Wigg? Why do we need his political affiliation?

Authors really need to be careful when coming up with names. Otherwise people will come up with things like Earwig and Serious Ass.

Or at least, I will. >.>

I agree with you on the Masts thing. I'm surprised it's still afloat.


Finally, that is the stupidest government ever. I would take over in a heartbeat.


Isn't it? I mean... they're mass murderers and they're letting them live! How STUPID are they?!

Date: 2007-11-30 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
If they used a Star of David as a magical symbol of DOOOM then the religious community would be up in arms and sue the author off their assets.

But still, you're quite right.

Date: 2007-11-30 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I do try and make them educational. I mean what's the point of going through all of these if you don't learn something. It would just be bitching then.

Isn't it?

Date: 2007-12-01 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacedraccus.livejournal.com
Well.... they're sailors. So, you know, hide the cabin boy...

And making guys horny is not a superpower, it's a stupidpower. We do that well enough on our own, thankyewverymuch. :D

Date: 2007-12-01 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellicat.livejournal.com
So instead of killing the EVIL sorceresses who killed loads of people, they're putting them on a boat in the middle of the ocean with some food. BRILLIANT! They're leaving SORCERESSES with some food and a boat instead of killing them outright. What if the sorceresses knew how to multiply their meagre food supply? Or propel their boat back to land?They can still entrance men after 15 days of starvation. That should tell Earwig something. If they were powerful enough to kill loads of people, there's probably loads of spells that they can do to ensure their survival, unless they're from one of those stupid Fantasyland organizations devoted only to killing Just Because.

The Good Guys most likely don't know their capabilities. There's no way they could get the whole truth without 100% accurate even if a wizard like Earwig forced a confession out of them. However, given how stupid this book is so far, 100% accurate truthspells probably in here too.

He gave them a PENTACLE to make them evil? Give me a break!

Don't get me started on the sexism.

Date: 2007-12-01 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
So, I take it the book is frustrating you?

Date: 2007-12-01 05:03 am (UTC)
albijuli: (BANG THE VIRGIN MARY)
From: [personal profile] albijuli
Newcomb ignored the past by not paying attention to what makes a good fantasy story, he ignored the present by making it cliche, and he ignored the future because I'm taking it apart. >:D

This IS going to be fun xD

Date: 2007-12-01 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reverie-shadow.livejournal.com
The "Cult Of Kippur" has a surprisingly nice ring to it. Or the "Cult of Kip".

Date: 2007-12-01 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
Once again Kipper saves us from horrible literature by applying well sharpened sporks. Yay!

Date: 2007-12-01 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Isn't it? Like getting my spleen pulled out by a rusty spork. XD

Date: 2007-12-01 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
*bows* Thank you. Thank you.

Join the cult.

Date: 2007-12-01 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I know! I was very WTF at that moment. Yes I know they haven't seen a pretty girl for a while, but really.

Date: 2007-12-01 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacedraccus.livejournal.com
Yes. We have members' jackets.

Date: 2007-12-01 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellicat.livejournal.com
How could you guess?

Date: 2007-12-01 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carolpent.livejournal.com
"Cruves in all the right places"?

A little Mika sets off the tone of this story quite nicely!

Date: 2007-12-01 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I dunno. You just sort of hinted at it a bit. XD

Date: 2007-12-01 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
And discounts at restaurants.

Date: 2007-12-01 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
Wait... not my misspelling. XD *pats*

Yup.
Edited Date: 2007-12-01 05:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-12-02 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indescane.livejournal.com
So. Characters so far...

Women:
- are evil.
- have curves in all the right places.
- are Foreshadowing.
- can make people feel sorry for them.
- can make men feel incredibly horny.

Men:
- are inferior.
- feel sorry for the women.
- cannot resist the women.

The Government:
- is stupid.

Yes, this is looking like a regular masterpiece of literary art!

Date: 2007-12-02 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com
I know. Don't you feel so excited about the rest of the book?

Date: 2007-12-02 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com
Reminds me of Monty Python.

"Really, I can handle it!"
"No! It's much too dangerous!"

Date: 2007-12-02 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carolpent.livejournal.com
No, I think that was me.

Date: 2007-12-02 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karma-kalisutah.livejournal.com
There you have it, folks! Women are evil because men lust after us! We make them harangue us, harass us, even rape us! How dare we? Don't we realize that we're putting their eternal souls at jeopardy?

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go find the misogynist bastard that wrote this evil dreck so I can spit in his face.

Date: 2007-12-02 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anarchicq.livejournal.com
Wigg (who keeps on reminding me of an earwig) continues his ship contemplation
Wigg: Hmm...Harry and Ron or Harry and Hermione?

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